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 Posted: Aug 14, 2013 12:20PM
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Harnes bar is ok 0degrees to 15 degree downward angle according to FIA.

Make sure you are using a 5 (or 6)-point harness and not just a 4-point. A passenger was in the footwell and up underneath the dash and died at the scene when the car she was in hit a tire barrier and she was only wearing a 4-point belt in an otherwise survivable accident. Had she had an antisubmarine belt or even used the standard 3-point harness and stock seat, she reportedly may even have been able to have walked away.

I'm guilty of having not worn the anti-sub belt when I've driven my street registered fully caged car on the street. Won't be making that mistake again.

 Posted: Aug 14, 2013 11:21AM
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This is a Safety Devices roll bar with a custom harness mount bar installed. Considering there were no seat belts when I bought the Mini I must say I feel much safer now - especially on the track and with 180hp!

Although as it turns out the custom harness bar should have been mounted at the same level as the harness slots in the seats.  In theory in a rollover the harness angle will put undo stress on ones shoulders in this mounting position.

Also I have a roll bar pad across the hoop and when driving with a helmet on it does come in contact. I'm 6'1"+ and those are Corbeau bucket seats which will rub against the vertical post on the drivers side shoulder area.

 Posted: Aug 13, 2013 08:15PM
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If it's for something like VARA or similar historic racing, some only require a hoop w/ diagonal. If this is the case, just make sure you get one that is as high as you want/need it to be over your helmeted head when you're belted in. If you are hoping to be competitive, weight really does matter and you'll likely consider sticking with just that minimal hoop. It's also your cheapest option and you can buy a bunch off the shelf.

The autopower rollbars I've had/held were very heavy. they were 1.75" x .120" DOM. And I didn't like the fit. The Safety Devices rollbar I had was light, but also didn't offer the fit I would have liked to see. But they were designed to cover a myriad of conditions and not specific for a car and application.

That said, I would highly encourage a full professional custom built cage. And even if professionally built, make sure the builder has a copy of all the written cage requirements for the organization(s) you want to race with.

Evil Genius Racing in Sacramento has experience caging a classic mini (for CrazyMike K.) and I understand that Bill Gilcrease in Costa Mesa (Minicomp Racing) will build cages for minis.

 Posted: Aug 13, 2013 02:42PM
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Beat me to it Kelley. Didn't know it was for a race car. So many street cars with cages and drivers without helmets.

 Posted: Aug 13, 2013 11:32AM
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If you're going racing, get a custom cage. I always look at other racers' cages. I've never seen a bolt in cage that fits quite right. The most noticable mis-fit is at the a-pillar. It either blocks the mirrors, or restricts vision out of the windshield.

Plus, you can design it snug enough to touch the body in the turns, but not when it's sitting in tech.

 Posted: Aug 13, 2013 10:20AM
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Racing requires a cage, so have someone who does that do that.

 Posted: Aug 13, 2013 10:12AM
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Preparing  my mini for racing, helmet is must have. anyway love Your quote:

"It's certainly a joke if you're putting steel bars closer to your head and you're not wearing a helmet."

regards Pred

 

 Posted: Aug 13, 2013 08:56AM
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It's certainly a joke if you're putting steel bars closer to your head and you're not wearing a helmet.

Kelley

"If you can afford the car, you can afford the manual..."

 Posted: Aug 13, 2013 07:18AM
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ive got a minitech one from georgia. you have to use a ratched strap to tighten it to slide it in car. have not bolted it in the car yet. I wanted one to make the car a little safer I know a joke right

 Posted: Aug 13, 2013 07:02AM
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Hi

anyone have experience in installing roll bar ,which one is best , cheap or better. How hard is to install  etc.

Thanks in forward for Your answers.

Pred

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