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 Ride Height Help w/ Hi-Lows

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 Posted: Sep 15, 2014 04:43PM
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Thanks everyone for the advise—it was most helpful. I was also keeping an eye on Todd’s post re: Cycling the Suspension. I was still hoping DELTA would send me some installation instructions—always looking for an easer way out. Long story short; turns out my nephew owns and operates a top-notch resto business. Who knew?

He yanked the springs and trumpets, turned the front poly spacers around to their correct position and milled another ¾” off the front trumpets for additional adjustment and presto, we have the ride height I was looking for!

Thanks again for the help. I’ll post more once I’ve done a couple of hot-laps around the neighborhood.  Wink

Cheers!

 

Michael, Santa Barbara, CA

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Looks like a pile of very nice parts there. The S Racer red kit I have ( and would like to find a home for ) have an alloy spacer that goes between the spring and the Hi Los. The front and rear ones are different thickness. Of course that would cause the rear to be high, The rear would be no problem to shorten the drive rod. Did you happen to notice if the rear sub frame has a stop to bottom the rubber spring nut? It would be in the center of the spring mounting on sub frame. 

I have not run a set of steel springs, I'd be surprised to hear that the settle any amount. Can't say they don't just didn't expect that. As for the front we often shorten the threaded rod and the matching alloy threaded part by the same amount to get race cars down a little more. I'd keep after the supplier while every part you buy for a classic these days has to be fiddled with to work something in that price range should work out of the box. Steve (CTR)

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Mine are from minispares and they started all the way down, but I had to raise them to get the tires to not hit. After you run them a little they settle in. I have the red springs also. Jerry

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Couple things to look at, first thing is to make sure the shock isn't bottomed out, and the second thing I see, can you remove one of the jam nuts and wind the trumpet down farther? It's hard to really judge what's going on in a picture, so not sure if ether of these thing will work.

 Posted: Sep 13, 2014 05:37PM
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Just measured a set (all the same size) of MiniMania budget HiLo's, they are 2-3/4" from spring seat to adjuster all the way in, they also use a bigger bolt head for the adjustable bit, jam nuts are basically the same. They look shinier like Mikes, I believe he has the integral HiLo's on his Delta setup (not even the same as the deluxe MiniMania set). My front Adjust-a-ride trumpet is 2-5/8" so 1/8" difference. The adjustaride had a zerk for grease, a drain hole & a plastic cap to keep water out so they win in my book. So looks like you'll be pulling them out anyways to measure & figure out. You can always cut a little off the trumpet too. Seems that the knuckle joint end that fit's into the Adjustaride is a little bit bigger than that of the MiniMania - didn't see that coming. I'd slather the MiniMania adjuster with anti-seize so they don't bind up, that's why the Adjustaride has a zerk.

If they truly won't work for you, I can give you a brand new working set of MiniMania budget HiLo's for your unacceptable Delta products.

I can go measure the red springs if anyone in interested, mine are FAR from being installed...  Mike's springs look like the same gauge wire front n back, my front red springs are much heavier gauge than the rears.

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Delta....never would have guessed...oh wait, it says it right on the spring....LOL

 

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Can you measure the height of the Silver large part of the HI Lo?

and compare to the rear - Perhaps this Set / kit need to be reversed - lower in the front- Taller in the rear . 

 

Besides that making sure everyhting is set in place is crucial.. have you driven it yet wih this- looking for any addtional setteling?

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Tell us the distance between the tire and wing lip. Does the coil spring have one or two coils. Did you add the polyurathane cushion to the front or back subframe?

 Posted: Sep 13, 2014 11:00AM
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Originally Posted by Cup Cake

Nice looking setup you have there. I think the springs are Delta Racer.

Delta Racer... sounds familar. Short of removing the springs, trumpets etc., and measuring everything, I'm hoping I can call the manufacturer for advice. Alas, I cannot find a link for Delta. Searches return mostly info on the new IndyCar and Oldsmobiles. Yell

 

EDIT: Found it—I think <//www.mini-delta.com>. Will advise...

EDIT2: Hmm... their "Classic" Mini section seems to have evaporated.

EDIT3: An email to Delta returned this auto-response "Your inquiry has been transmitted. If you cannot receive any answers, they might be for trouble or something. In this case, we are afraid but please inquire once again."

Now I'm afraid too!  Surprised

 

 

Michael, Santa Barbara, CA

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 Posted: Sep 13, 2014 09:30AM
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I have found that whenever I lift the front end off the ground and put it back down, it sits higher until I drive it and it settles back down.  However, that set up you have is way out of my league!

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Nice looking setup you have there. I think the springs are Delta Racer.

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Some HiLo trumpets are for rubber cones only I've been advised... That might add some height. maybe some trumpets are longer than others?

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It does look like it is set to the lowest.......are you sure things are seated properly in the tower?
I've never used the coil springs...only the rubber ones...but I'm guessing they still need to be centred properly in the tower.

 

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 Posted: Sep 12, 2014 09:52PM
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I’m finishing up the last details on my project Mini. Today’s item was to set the ride height. I’m looking to fill the wheel wells evenly, with 2 fingers or so between the tire and flair. Currently the car sits way too high in front but fine in the rear. I have all new suspension thingies front to back including these “hi-low” spring conversions of unknown origin; nothing sinister implied, I just lost the receipt  :-)

Unless I’m not understanding how the height adjustment works, it looks to me like the front trumpet adjustments are at their lowest setting. With the front too high at its lowest setting, what do you guys think is going on? Could the hi-lows be installed improperly—perhaps the front & rears are reversed? Some of the hi-low kits use spacers. Perhaps my spacers were installed improperly—reversed maybe?

Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks!

 

Michael, Santa Barbara, CA

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