Electric Fan (Which to choose)
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Sure, I drink coffee -
Depending upon which quality (std., kevlar, silicone etc.) and whether you've got a small or large-bore engine, our host has hoses available as individual hoses or in kits.
//www.minimania.com/ss/COOLING,CO_HOSES
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Hi, Thanks for this help. I am an african british from Sheffield (ma
parents where from Gambia). Moved to Norway studied college, univ and
worked - lived here over 20 yrs. Thanks friend.
Anyway, the hoses i have is old ones. Can u pls see through the site to tip
me with links on the sets of hoses i have to buy, please?
Thanks for all help my friend. Mayeb i will share coffee one time if i am
in denmark.
yours
Spa
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I'm American, living in Denmark. You shouldn't need new hoses, but if the ones you have are old, well, now's as good a time as any to change them.
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I'll continue -
IF the radiator is changed to a Super 2-core unit and IF the water pump is the deep impellor-type and you've got the large water pump pulley and IF the heater core (in it's standard fitted state) isn't blocked with rust and sediment and the ignition timing is correct and the air/fuel mixture and the valve clearances is correct and your 82°C thermostat is working properly, the engine still genuinely over heats:
check your fan belt tension, then, if necessary,
install either the 6-blade tropical fan or the 4-blade (2 x 2 blade unit) and sacrifice a bit of increased noise, then, if necessary,
install the small water-pump pulley to get the water pump turning a bit faster
I'm using an electric fan (C-ARA4401) mounted to the radiator and it's a bit tight, but works a treat. I'm not using the automatic thermostat which is normally mounted in the upper hose, rather I have a toggle switch and small indicator lamp. That said, however, I only used it once after I'd solved my overheating problem. I was sitting in a traffic jam and I know that my mixture was a bit lean and I had a touch too much ignition advance that day. Details on another thread; short version: had the nr. 3 rocker pedestal nut lose it's ability to hold the 24lbs/ft torque and causing more than a bit of mahem with the valve clearances.
I've the 4-blade fan and KC sent a small pulley to me to try. He's not getting it back, it works fantastic.
Let us know how you make out -
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I'll continue -
IF the radiator is changed to a Super 2-core unit and IF the water pump is the deep impellor-type and you've got the large water pump pulley and IF the heater core (in it's standard fitted state) isn't blocked with rust and sediment and the ignition timing is correct and the air/fuel mixture and the valve clearances is correct and your 82°C thermostat is working properly, the engine still genuinely over heats:
check your fan belt tension, then, if necessary,
install either the 6-blade tropical fan or the 4-blade (2 x 2 blade unit) and sacrifice a bit of increased noise, then, if necessary,
install the small water-pump pulley to get the water pump turning a bit faster
I'm using an electric fan (C-ARA4401) mounted to the radiator and it's a bit tight, but works a treat. I'm not using the automatic thermostat which is normally mounted in the upper hose, rather I have a toggle switch and small indicator lamp. That said, however, I only used it once after I'd solved my overheating problem. I was sitting in a traffic jam and I know that my mixture was a bit lean and I had a touch too much ignition advance that day. Details on another thread; short version: had the nr. 3 rocker pedestal nut lose it's ability to hold the 24lbs/ft torque and causing more than a bit of mahem with the valve clearances.
I've the 4-blade fan and KC sent a small pulley to me to try. He's not getting it back, it works fantastic.
Let us know how you make out -
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i see...i'd lean towards installing another small radiator and radiator fan on the left side of the engine compartment, you just have to get a longer rubber hose., as long as the water circulates and being cooled off,thats what matters., or put pure coolant no water (NOT 50/50 mix), you can buy them from wallmart color green(it's says on the bottle coolant for racing cars),
Another option perhaps would be installing an electric auxilliary fan directed not to any radiator BUT directed towards the engine block itself.,,nobody has done this, it might work.
Firstly make sure you are truly overheating and make sure everthing is in working order and to spec. If so buy a super two core radiator and run it with the plastic fan (on the correct way) there should be no need for an auxilliary radiator. If you want to add aone do so but DO NOT use coolant only it will lower the boiling point, just use the least amount of coolant possible 20% <.
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i see...i'd lean towards installing another small radiator and radiator fan on the left side of the engine compartment, you just have to get a longer rubber hose., as long as the water circulates and being cooled off,thats what matters., or put pure coolant no water (NOT 50/50 mix), you can buy them from wallmart color green(it's says on the bottle coolant for racing cars),
Another option perhaps would be installing an electric auxilliary fan directed not to any radiator BUT directed towards the engine block itself.,,nobody has done this, it might work.
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I'm not sure you understand fully. And I must have missed where anyone was talking about putting a fan in that would blow hot air back into the engine bay...
We're talking about two separate ideas here:
1) Adding an auxiliary fan to supplement or replace the factory mechanical fan. The electric fan will be mounted in between the radiator and the innwe wing grate and blow out towards the wheel in the same direction as the mechanical fan. Or it will be mounted in the wheel well to the inner wing grate and again blow in the same direction as the original fan. None of the options will oppose the flow of the mechanical fan nor is there ever any good reason to do so.
2) Adding an auxiliary radiator. This is essentiallu a smal heater core plumbed into the cooling system off the heater takeoff on the left side of the head. These are almost always mounted just to the left of the distributor just behind the grille. The air flow is provided by the car moving forward and flowing air through the core. You could add an electric fan if you really wanted to, but the flow through that small radiator is quite low when the engine isn't revving.
Hope that clears it up. Also, I drew a picture. Lol
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oh wait you know what, minis have heaters inside the car, and design it in such a way that water from radiator goes inside condenser like thing inside the car the then the heat is being blown by a fan, the water circulates, i am thinking if i can move that condenser thingie to the engine bay and direct a high speed electric fan to it, i that a clever idea or no?
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where are you going to direct the auxillary fan? to the existing radiator? facing the existing engine fan?
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Why would you remove the heater? You're basically describing an auxiliary radiator which myself and others in hot climates have been doing for years. Give it a search and you'll find plenty of results
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oh wait you know what, minis have heaters inside the car, and design it in such a way that water from radiator goes inside condenser like thing inside the car the then the heat is being blown by a fan, the water circulates, i am thinking if i can move that condenser thingie to the engine bay and direct a high speed electric fan to it, i that a clever idea or no?
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I am not a very good mechanic, all i can as new geeg is a mechanic friend get small money and troubleshoot, then I do the new parts replacements.
CA2SBL127 : the radiator do not need cleaning beacuse the engine prebuying had problems that if stucked in traffic jam then its crazy - overheating. Its better to use electric fan with sensor switch for on/off.
If I get car yet? : No, but a guy who wants to earn more money on me have one and asked if he can cut, weld and paint all at their garage if I will pay one amount and that’s expensive but OK. So on paper not yet but deal between me and workshop all is set.
Help:
Just wanted you experts to help choose one of those two mini mania have that will be good for my car and off with overheating. I will need to buy Whole set because I cannot improvise to build my own. So please help me choose one.
is it the fan for the radiator ? or inside the car for passengers?
i wonder if oil coolers work for minis?? im in the lost too, my engine is overheating. let's ask them experts
Sorry i did not specify, geeg i am. Its the Eleectric Fan for RADIATOR.
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is it the fan for the radiator ? or inside the car for passengers?
i wonder if oil coolers work for minis?? im in the lost too, my engine is overheating. let's ask them experts
Sorry i did not specify, geeg i am. Its the Eleectric Fan for RADIATOR.
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is it the fan for the radiator ? or inside the car for passengers?
i wonder if oil coolers work for minis?? im in the lost too, my engine is overheating. let's ask them experts
And, how have you verified that the car is overheating? Are you just going by the gauge or have you checked the temperature when it shows "hot"?
Is it puking fluid or just going about it's business leaving you to worry about a line on a gauge that may or may not be accurate?
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Gas Monkey (any relation to the garage in Dallas?),
I lived in Lubbock Tx and Dallas Tx for years and I understand the needfor an Aux/electric fan even if others feel they are unnecessary. I'll be buying a 10" SPAL fan and making my own "kit". It's hundreds cheaper and I can wire it how I'd like. I intend to have a thermostatic switch and a manual switch.
I've heard of people being dissatisfied.with the Kenlowe fans in the past and neither one tells you their cfm rating or amp draw. Two big specs to look at IMO. That's the only tidbit I will throw in about your 2 choices.
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Gasmonkey:
One of the MM fans is $70 more than the other. That may help you decide.
Why do you need a fan when you do not have a car yet?
Are you familiar with the Mini at all?
Until the last model, all Mini cars had a belt driven fan on the water pump pulley.
That is all most cars need unless the cooling system and radiator need cleaning, the coolant is old or the car gets a lot of slow driving in hot climate.
A good radiator cap helps.
An electric fan will let you recover the power from the engine that is used to turn the stock fan, but the engine will still need to generate the electricity to run an electric fan.
An elecrtic fan can be a band-aid for other problems with the car, but the cost can go a long way toward getting the car fixed right.
Have fun,
Russ
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is it the fan for the radiator ? or inside the car for passengers?
i wonder if oil coolers work for minis?? im in the lost too, my engine is overheating. let's ask them experts
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Electric Fan for the RADIATOR
hi have got this engine and rebuilt it, just finished and awaiting for a promised austin mini to be bought soon. But i need help from u experts concerning choosing Electric Fan.
I am interested in buying an electric fan for my car. Mini Mania lists two. C-ARA4400 and MMKT0706. Do you like one better than the other, and why?
Its for Austin Mini Classics
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