Yes! as in my previous post! 73 Ozz mini. Will not register in CA all cars post 68 need a 50 state smog data plate. As they didnt import Mini's into the states in 73 this is impossable to do..........................

BC aka WEREWOLF, please stay out of this as, ssuperflyoldguy, doesn't want any out of state types or furnners mixing in the business of Kalifornee-

BIG AL

any update on this.  anyone import and tried to register a 66-76 mini in Calli since 15 june 14.?? when VIN 2014 went into effect

Easier than buying a new bonnet.

I own an early 1970s car that was an owner-import back in the mid-late 70s and it has a CARB Compliance Retrofit sticker on it. Hmmm, wonder if I could go into the printing business...

As I have found out recently if the car does not have a 49 state legal EPA sticker on it it cannot be registered in California. I have a 73 Ozzie Mini that simply will not go under any curcumstances as it never had a sticker and obviously they never came here to be able to get a duplicate sticker. so it's now a parts car..............

Also tried to get a customers 75 Canadian Spitfire registered but again no sticker no regisration. but at least they did import them in 75 so it's possable to get one for this car even if it meens buying a used bonnet.....................

I would doubt it with a V tec in it. Legally today it would not be legal to import it into the Country.

so i am unclear what this new ruling means? i was going to post this question anyway today but good that this topic came to the top again. i am helping my friend sell his vtec clubman from the east coast. it is a real 1971, built by geoff watson and imported from the uk, titled and registered in viginia, he has an interested buyer in califonia, can this be registered there?

It's been a while Chief, when are you headed out this aways next?

UPDATE..good news.  my friend with the 73 citroen DS.. got his Calli title and registration today.. Yves was able to get Citroen of France to give him a  EPA compliance letter to make CARB happy.. NOT like this could happen from  austin/morris/British Leyland/ /Rover/BMW  or what even it is called now??

Russ- That would be 1968 l believe re: EPA-

BIG AL

Everybody:

There is really not much change in the law.

The DMV web pages Spank posted explain it better than the Vehicle Industry News, even though the DMV puts out the Vehicle Industry News.

The Vehicle Industry News is mostly concerned with "49 state cars" from back when the U.S. car makers had to make different cars for sale in California than in the other 49 states.

One blaring difference between the Motor Industry News and thhe DMV web pages is the first year of manufacture the law applies.

The Vehicle Industry News shows vehicles from 1966 and the DMV web page shows 1968.

U.S. made cars were first equipped with exhaust emission devices in 1966 while imported vehicles did not have them until 1968.  U.S. made cars before 1966 and imports before 1968 were "uncontrolled" and, since the U.S. EPA did not exist until January 1, 1868, there will be no EPA or California emission compliance documentation for them. Also, there is no smog check requirement for them, but any non-factory modifications to 1966+ U.S. or 1968+ foreign cars are considered tampering with the emission control system.

That last part is why I do not recommend trying to bring in the '66 or '68 and newer cars.

There may be a lot of humor and frustration about the California air polution laws, but they do make the air cleaner. For thousands of years, people have dumped all kinds of crap in the air, oceans, water and land with no concern about the effects. When the air has so much stuf in it that you can see what you are coughing, and children are getting lung diseases previously only seen in old smokers, then we have a problem.

I love my state. So did my father and my grandfather back to 1889. The trouble is too many other people like my state, but many of them do not play nice.

If you bring a car to California, please play nice.

Russ 

spank.. thanks for posting the VIN 2014 -14 and the other DMV post for Calli..

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Back to the topic: What is import is how DIUV is defined.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?srcid=0B7BuxOyOE3T4M2JIajMwNHhuTUU&pid=explorer&efh=false&a=v&chrome=false&embedded=true

 

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/appndxa/hlthsaf/hs44200.htm

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/appndxa/hlthsaf/hs44201.htm

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/reg_hdbk/ch12/ch12_15.htm

 

Who's responsible for all the re-VINs out there?  That's a good question, but I don't think the answer is Big Al.  As an individual who has delivered quite a few Minis into the fair state of California for other people, and I have to say, MOST of the Minis that Big Al has sold out that way, I have yet to deliver any re-VINs for him.  I have (on the other hand) picked up a couple of "non-conforming" ie, post 75 Minis out there that Big Al has bought.  I don't think he is stirring the pot, just trying to get the info out there so someone doesn't make a huge $$$ mistake.

Superoldguy:

As l said, "I have no dog in this fight"

Only trying to help, It would be a shame if a California resident imported a mini from out of State and then found out that a 1968-1974 classic mini could not be registered-

I know that if new legislation were passed in Ontario affecting any classic mini that l would want someone to point it out to me-

Terry. just source a 1964-1967 UK Moke and you will be good to go-

And, "just as I suspected, you're fanning the flames for your own benefit "helping us out in California..", / As you may know, l have been out of the mini game since last November & will have no monetary gain from what happens in California

BIG AL

Wow, double-scheister post, way to fly your flags!

duh.. yellow grits are UN bleached .. and are stone ground.   better than honey due rain water 

Not sure I want to know what gives the grits the "Yellow" color........

superflyoldguy.. I have the actual letters from DMV there in Calli and copy of the new law from CARB.. VIN 2014.14..  I know for a FACT that BIG AL  MINI MOVER has posted the CORRECT info.. this new law went into effect on 15 June 14..  aslo   actually have a letter when DMV came out and TOOK at tag and reg on 73 Citroen DS. in Sept 14..   glad to fax it to your TODAY..  btw.. when eating CROW.. best to get side order of YELLOW GRITS..