looking for fiberglass moke body
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decided to build a aluminum moke on steriods from scratch its a big project but as there are only one panel with a bend its all stright i will use flush rivets and make it look sort of airplane type shiny aluminum with rivets ,
frame will be tig welded aluminum , front suspension will be mini but coil over shocks instead of the rubber donuts, about 1 ft wider and 3 ft longer to get the batteries and motor in trying to decide motor direct drive to the diff or a trani to diff , right now i drive around in third so with a bigger motor and more torgue and as big a rear end ratio i can get should be good.
one problem is the sprite diff is to narrow, so may look at a light weight one out of the junk yard .
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I looked again for the guy in italy. gianluca at GP moke.. seems if he still doing them. he is hiding under a rock..
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now for the electrical part
motor is a hpevs ac75 180 ft torque at 92 hp at 144 volts , its a AC motor and has regeneration ie tap brakes and get energy back into teh batteries,
controler Curtus 1239-8501 144 volt ac at 500 amps.
batteries as i said will be out of a new wrecked chevy volt 8 sets of 48 volt 40ahr batteries will wire in 3 to a string of 144 volts and 15 batteries so 34 kw total . about the same as one gallon of gas in energy 4/0 welding wires to the controler which has a saftey contactor and fuses. each bank of three series batteries has a 200 amp fuse
for control a Emeter tells you state of charge and percentage left battery voltage and current , to drive the 12 volt normal car battery we have a 144v to12 volt charger at 40 amps,
throttle is a 5 k pot which is in a box with pedal ,quite nice and the regen is the same and rests on the back of the brake pedal with a bit of slack ,
the charger is unknown yet as the one on my roadster is to small only 2 kw and would be to slow
charging 34 kw batteries .
rebatteries many use a BMS batery managemnet system which shunts off each battery as its voltage hits a set point
idont use them for a few resons i like KISS and the more worries and more complications the worse everything gets
also there have been quite a few fires in the bms system, if the mosfet shorts like they do ,you have a big fire. if you run your batteries not quite to 97 percent and dont run them down below 20 percent you realy dont need the pile of extra electronincs expense or trouble of a BMS .
looking for a set of big brake mini front end suspension no drive shafts for 13inch wheels dont need sub frame or shocks also need 13 inch wheels
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Wow, you're right. I did a search and found a pick up not 6 miles from me ! Turns out he's a forum member (8port) and he's been into minis over 40 years ! Turns out I've known him over 30 years ! Turns out Spitz has a beautiful pick up for sale. Who woulda thunk ?
Dr Tom's slighty breathed on pick up > He does have a rare hand built fiber-glass mini (clubman) that was used for ice racing in one of those frozen states to the North . Frame and cage are made of steel.
It will be for sale sometime in the near future. Not sure if the Richard Longman engine will go with it or another engine.
Has a way fool factor in my book.( I hadn't seen this one on ebay, was posted on FB by a local club member in Dayton
I know Dr Paul posted the Ant link as he's goading me into buying it, so as you are OMO member I have a feeling we probably know each other, though I'm struggling to put a face to the name.
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Sounds like a fun build. I re built a Wrangler and left it at the beach and it was hell keeping up with the constant sea air rusting everything. There was a Moke that was widened in Australia with big wheels and it looked like a factory build when finished. Keep us updated.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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hi malsal yes looked at that, want it a bit bigger, here in the bahamas they drive like they are nuts ,so I want some protection. So at this point it looks like a start from scratch job, make 4 X's on the floor and build up . the moke will be 30 inches longer to fit the motor and batteries , about 10 inches wider and 8 inch higher and a lot stronger, i will design crush zones front back and the sides will be typical racing type cage , but the frame will be all aluminum. steel although strong rusts down here i live right at the ocean.
the body will be aircraft flush rivited 6061 .065 alum. should be fun to build, will use a sprite rear end and mini front end but cut off the cv joint with 13 inch wheels , sort of a buggered moke, rear wheel drive and bigger , but will use the basic moke shape which i like the looks of , they are fun to drive around in. especialy if they are fast.
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Good project. You could possibly buy an AMC Cub frame (they are making them again in the UK) and as it is made from steel powder coat it and cover it with aluminum panels. The Cub is the closest copy to a Moke and stronger.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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range is now not as big a problem , with the new volt batteries im getting 120 plus miles out of only 17kw so thats not bad milage especialy when the island you live on is 5 miles by 60 miles the moke will have twice the batteries looking at 200 plus miles per 12 hr day and night charge off my big solar system and batteries . still thinking of a aluminum frame and alum body rivited and clear coated to look shiny .
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ok what the hell are you talking about electrocution duuuuuuu the batteries are all isolated do you drive you mini in the wet yet it has 30,000 volts at the spark plugs . tell you what dont post it only make you look bad
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Zippy and malsal, I wasn't familiar with the Jimini, rather cool, although I prefer the looks of the round headlamps of the Moke.
malsal, how is the body stiffness, any flexing ?
Thanks for sharing.
Tis a good day when you learn something, wish I had more of those !
Body flexing is good as the fiberglass is pretty thick with box steel bracing and a beam type axle set up with Mini arms, but with that being said i do get some "feedback" through the column on occasional bumps similar to an older convertible. As there is no lower rail the original column was mounted to the pedal box and was flexing badly so i replaced that and made the mounting more secure and it is 100% better now but not 100% if that makes sense. The next step would be to build a lower rail and attach the column to that. The steel one i just looked at had a lower rail welded in place. The front can be converted to round headlights and there are a couple on the web that have been done.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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A local guy near me did an electric porsche 914, sardine can. It's wicked fast but limited in milage as most are.
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Zippy and malsal, I wasn't familiar with the Jimini, rather cool, although I prefer the looks of the round headlamps of the Moke.
malsal, how is the body stiffness, any flexing ?
Thanks for sharing.
Tis a good day when you learn something, wish I had more of those !
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Bob,
Not exactly a Moke.... Don't know if they still make these:
//www.jimini.co.uk/kitcar/
//maximummini.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/building-brand-new-jimini.html
Several others shown on the maximummini site....
They do Zip well at least their website is up and the phone is still connected. I have one and the quality of the shell is very good mine is 24 years old with no stress cracks and weighs 1140 lbs. Actually just came across and early one in steel 15 miles from me that i am going to look at today, cheap alternative to a Moke and as much fun.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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fiberglass moke would be nice.
electric mokes should be ridden mostly in dry places like arizona,
imagine this , a roof-less moke that is run by electricity and you live in Seattle where it rains 24hrs a day, sounds fun huh?
but overall i like the fiberglass idea.
electrocution
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Bob,
Not exactly a Moke.... Don't know if they still make these:
//www.jimini.co.uk/kitcar/
//maximummini.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/building-brand-new-jimini.html
Several others shown on the maximummini site....
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ok ask questions ps electronic eng worked for ford , chrysler and daimler on electric cars
I'm going to throw another one into the mix. Porsche developed the first functional hybrid car. Ohh, about 112 years ago.
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ok a start , my 1300 lb roadster has a set of chevy volt batteries i got outof a new wrecked junkyard car 2000, 17kw re wired for 96 volts, i bought runs about 280 lb , the motor is a 3 phase AC from hvps model 31 , not a big motor on 72 volts only 20 some hp. controler is a curtus motor and controler used off ebay 2000.00 the batteries are very small 21 by 30 by 10 inches i dont use a bms as i dont belive i n them , 96 to 12 volt charger and a small car battery for radio lights and gauges. wipers. 150.00 the main charger 2000 w was 750.00 runs either 240 or 120 ( 1000 w ) easy install took 5 days to convert . specs so far range running relitivily hard ( i have a heavy right foot is 100 to120 miles with regen , which is good range . speed 85 mph 0 to 6 under 6 sec . the moke or pickup will have two battery packs for 200 milage range but unbelivable speed , expect car will cost 20k when done , either i will build outof aluminum frame as well a bit wider and taller , and longer sort of a moke on steriods , expect 0 to 60 in3 sec top speed 120 mph so very good roll cage, will have mini suspension arms and coil over up front with direct rear drive to sprite rear end. no trani will run motor right to diff/
ok ask questions ps electronic eng worked for ford , chrysler and daimler on electric cars
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if anyone interested in electric mini let me know we will start a blog and go for it , my roadster is unbelivable how quick it is with only a 42 hp motor 0 to 40 times is 3 sec ,it just squirts , the next project will be much faster , with over 100 hp at the wheels , but its a diifrent hp all at the bottom end , i have to drive around in third or forth if i use second it squeels the tires and first just lites them up in smoke.
I'm more intrigued than interested at this point. But I'd love to be able to reference a blog for the build to get an idea on what is involved. I've got a Mini I was planning on selling in the coming months that I could use. Hmmm.....
On further thought, I live just a few miles from my work and would drive the heck out of an electric Mini.
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if anyone interested in electric mini let me know we will start a blog and go for it , my roadster is unbelivable how quick it is with only a 42 hp motor 0 to 40 times is 3 sec ,it just squirts , the next project will be much faster , with over 100 hp at the wheels , but its a diifrent hp all at the bottom end , i have to drive around in third or forth if i use second it squeels the tires and first just lites them up in smoke.
Super interested, I have a wagon waiting in the wings thet would be a perfect candidate...
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Dr Tom has been a hot rodder for many years, the truck reflects that. Body work ( other than the Fortech racing flairs) is stock.
He did have a custom slider rear window made, nice touch. Truck is steel not glass and he doesn't make, he builds cars to his liking.
Not your cup of tea ? It's not for everybody. It has cool Cali. graphics, bigger/wider wheels and tires, stronger engine.
Did you look at the Ant ?
$20 bill I just found says you've never seen or read of one before.
I would say that $20 is safe on the "read" part.......
I do too
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