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 Posted: Nov 25, 2014 09:32AM
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My 1989 Jap market MINI has the pilot lights also.

When I was looking for the proper headlights to replace them ( as RHD headlights are illegal...unsafe.... in a LHD licensed country ), I was tempted to just rewire the front indicator lights as "park" lights and use regular sealed beams.
I found MINImania sold the correct lights for LHD so bought them and retained the pilot light.

//www.minimania.com/part/S6011/Lens-Only-Halogen-Headlight-Headlamp---For-Right-Hand-Roads

 

 

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"WET COOPER", Partsguy1 (Terry Snell of Penticton BC ) - Could you send the money for the unpaid parts and court fees.
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 Posted: Nov 25, 2014 03:15AM
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Originally Posted by 1963SV2

My 63 handbook lists 3 kinds of headlight set-ups.  Headlamps (sic) (RHD and LHD except Europe), headlamps Europe and headlamps (North America, sealed beam).

The headlamps bowl "pilot light" is marked as "UK only".

"Cars built for use other than in the United Kingdom have combined pilot and flashing indicator lamps." 

Cheers, Ian

My front clip was built for Japan, so don't believe all that is in print. But then it is a Mark V, so things might have changed after 63.

 Posted: Nov 24, 2014 09:56PM
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I owned a Mini pick up that had been converted (maybe for SA laws as it came from there). It had a dual filament bulb in the turn signals one for sidelights and one for the turn signal, other than the dual filament bulb housing the lenses looked stock. Worked well here as you could replace the headlights with stock 7" items from any local parts store, no need to search for the "sidelight" not available in the US headlamps.

All the Clubmans had a turn signal and sidelight housed in the one lens along with non sidelight headlamps.

I've thought about wiring in the dual filament sockets to the indicators from the pilot, the inspection guys bust my stones about the "parking light" not lighting on the park circuit or on main beam I need to point out the pilot on the main lamp to somewhat satisfy them.  

I had both the auxillary side lights and pilot lights in the headlamps and ended up using the headlamp pilot light wiring to power up my spotlights running the wiring through the now redundant UK rear fog lamp switch.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

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 Posted: Nov 24, 2014 07:58PM
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Mine's a "Morris Mini Cooper" Drivers Handbook (with S supplement) on the last page it has some fine print thta says "Printed in England by the Nuffield Press ....8/63.."  Don't know if that means Aug 63 ??  Late Feb 63 (Week 8) seems a bit early for the S but if its the print date then I suppose they may have prepared the handbooks in advance..

Cheers, Ian

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Originally Posted by 1963SV2

My 63 handbook lists 3 kinds of headlight set-ups.  Headlamps (sic) (RHD and LHD except Europe), headlamps Europe and headlamps (North America, sealed beam).

The headlamps bowl "pilot light" is marked as "UK only".

"Cars built for use other than in the United Kingdom have combined pilot and flashing indicator lamps." 

Cheers, Ian

Sounds like we're reading the same manual.....I can't find a date on it but since it's still a seven and it includesa pic of a LWB...I concluded 62

 

"Everybody should own a MINI at some point, or you are incomplete as a human being" - James May

"WET COOPER", Partsguy1 (Terry Snell of Penticton BC ) - Could you send the money for the unpaid parts and court fees.
Ordered so by a Judge

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by malsal

I owned a Mini pick up that had been converted (maybe for SA laws as it came from there). It had a dual filament bulb in the turn signals one for sidelights and one for the turn signal, other than the dual filament bulb housing the lenses looked stock. Worked well here as you could replace the headlights with stock 7" items from any local parts store, no need to search for the "sidelight" not available in the US headlamps.

All the Clubmans had a turn signal and sidelight housed in the one lens along with non sidelight headlamps.

I've thought about wiring in the dual filament sockets to the indicators from the pilot, the inspection guys bust my stones about the "parking light" not lighting on the park circuit or on main beam I need to point out the pilot on the main lamp to somewhat satisfy them.  

 

 

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My 63 handbook lists 3 kinds of headlight set-ups.  Headlamps (sic) (RHD and LHD except Europe), headlamps Europe and headlamps (North America, sealed beam).

The headlamps bowl "pilot light" is marked as "UK only".

"Cars built for use other than in the United Kingdom have combined pilot and flashing indicator lamps." 

Cheers, Ian

 Posted: Nov 24, 2014 12:18PM
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I owned a Mini pick up that had been converted (maybe for SA laws as it came from there). It had a dual filament bulb in the turn signals one for sidelights and one for the turn signal, other than the dual filament bulb housing the lenses looked stock. Worked well here as you could replace the headlights with stock 7" items from any local parts store, no need to search for the "sidelight" not available in the US headlamps.

All the Clubmans had a turn signal and sidelight housed in the one lens along with non sidelight headlamps.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

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spitz..  no $hit?? never knew this????

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actually they are called pilot lights......so my 1962 driver's handbook says

 

"Everybody should own a MINI at some point, or you are incomplete as a human being" - James May

"WET COOPER", Partsguy1 (Terry Snell of Penticton BC ) - Could you send the money for the unpaid parts and court fees.
Ordered so by a Judge

 

 

 

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actually they are called city lights.  for london , paris., berlin ect. as could NOT use full beam  in city limits.. as they blind the pedestrians  

 Posted: Nov 23, 2014 02:15PM
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Thanks for the replies. That explains why there is a single filament bulb in the amber lights I took apart this afternoon to clean up.

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If you mean the little extra bulb in the headlight bowl, its not a "daylight running light" (although I'm sure it could be wired that way).

I really don't know when they started fitting these but all the early (62 on) Mini's I've ever had have been fitted with these little parking lights...  In the old days it used to be illegal to park a vehicle on the side of the road at night unless it was lit.

Cheers, Ian

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The small lamps in the headlamp buckets are not technically Daytime running lamps- but actually the Euro Park lights.

Turns signals are just that- only Turn signals. No park lamps inside of that bulb assembly.

Those park lamps are on when Main Beams are also On.  North american standard is park lamp in with the turn signal. 

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I'm trying to figure out the year of the various parts of my car, and one clue might be the fact that the headlights had daytime running lights in them. of course that might vary, as that part was assembled for export to Japan.