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 Posted: Nov 1, 2015 08:26PM
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Originally Posted by Minimike1

Golf cart wheels are not DOT approved and won't handle road conditions like pot holes.  They're made for speeds up to what?

20mph? 

The Goodyear Double Eagles are in fact DOT rated. I use them as my daily drivers. I haven't tested them side-by-side with my Yoko 032's for lap times, but I would expect that the Yokos have better dry grip than the Goodyears. The Double Eagles do just fine going to the grocery store for a 1/2 gallon of milk—a full gallon might cause undue stress on the sidewalls. Wink  Honestly, we shouldn't be driving on the edge of control on public highways anyway. Right?  WinkWink  Besides, the Double Eagles must be safe, just look at the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0seNSXwHLLw

For all the concern expressed here about safety, if any of us were that concerned we'd all be driving Volvos. In general, my Mini is probably the least safe car I've ever owned, with the possible exception of my other car (see pic). I talked to a Morris Minor owner the other day and he was proud of the fact that his '64 Minor wasn't required to have seatbelts, so none were installed. Now that's crazy!

MiniMike1: I'm almost afraid to ask, but I'm curious why you only have three Double Eagles for sale. Do you have a scary tire failure story you'd like to share?

 

Michael, Santa Barbara, CA

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 Posted: Jul 28, 2015 09:23AM
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 Posted: Jul 28, 2015 09:13AM
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Golf cart wheels are for carts that drives around a grassland on a golf course,carrying golf clubs and it's maximum speed is 5mph with the wind in it's back. Now here you are wanting to use it to drive 90mph on a mini, in an illegal racing in New Jersey??? dude, you need to install a six point roll bar in your mini before you take the irresponsible risk.... safety first!!!!  just a brotherly advice,no offense meant

 

 

 

 

 Posted: Jul 28, 2015 08:39AM
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The original spirit of the mini (before the new concourse asset class evolved) was little cars which handled very well. Although little, they still develop quite large forces. 

It's all well and good saying "these tyres are rated to 90mph" when that does not imply a cornering force. I used to occasionally get into 4 wheel drifts in my old 66. (on a private track). If you have a component of the tyre come unglued because you are pushing it too hard, it follows that you will have a nasty accident yourself which may involve other people. This is reckless. 

The same applies to running spindly blingy wheels designed for a golf cart. These things may be strong enough for the job, or they may be made out of an inferior alloy. Have these been tested, are they good? Knowing the whole "made in China" phenomena, I'm aware that any piece of paper of stamp can be added so that they tick box. If they come to bits, who is responsible for the screw up? You, the vendor, or the manufacturer? 

I have run a mini on 7" wheels (Force Racing Jobs) with 032s and narrow wheels with Avons. I've also had engines which develop huge amounts of power and the above setups are man enough for the job. 

I just don't get my head around why someone would fit silly tyres and silly wheels to a road going projectile in order for it to look kool. It is like playing Russian Roulette. If these things are certified good and they have been tested in the manner in which you are going to run them at, all well and good. It seems several of you on here are fitting your argument to your wish. "So and So uses them, so they must be OK" "Minilites don't have certificates" "How does your 1460 engine affect public safety?"

To knowingly put toy wheels and tyres on a road going car isn't just madness, it's c ntery of the worst sort. 


By all means put your golf cart tyres on your golf cart wheels on your golf cart and then go 90mph at your golf course and hopefully someone with a No9 iron stoves your skull in for being a reckless tw t. 

Red one sold years ago. Blue one "tuned" a bit. 

 Posted: Jul 27, 2015 06:45PM
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A lot of these have ratings safer then your average mini rating wheel...

 Posted: Jul 27, 2015 11:38AM
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Originally Posted by Minimike1

no point in lengthing this thread. If he puts his wheels over his life and others, then he can't understand what I've said.  Reminds me of the guy who kept changing his screen name.

outta this one.

Mini Mike....I've thought that for some time, that it's...he shall not be mentioned....with another alter ego.

as they say in Motorcycle circles...$10 hat for a $10 head.  Lunacy!!!

Saor Alba

 Posted: Jul 26, 2015 07:20AM
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BUMP

These are going strong,potholes bumps etc.I have gone faster then most members would even feel safe driving and normal to higher highway speeds then most go for miles and miles at a time.

 Posted: Mar 15, 2015 11:07AM
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There is a lot more wrong with that car than the beige paint, not to mention the creation next to it.

 Posted: Mar 15, 2015 06:52AM
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The 12" Falkens I had going around Australia and across NA and back were used up quickly on the Mini loaded for travel - 8 new tires over 30,000 miles/50,000 kms.

10" A008 Yokies on Minilites took one heck of a bang crossing Missouri - right front corner got pounded in a big (unmarked) pothole) at 65 mph on the Interstate,  Hunny Pot the trailer got thrown into the air.  Minilites/Yokies fine...150 ft. lbs. torque on right front hub loosened by the shock.  (all up weight of Mini & trailer 2,500 lbs.)

Best all round 10" tire for Mini travel in my experience was the Yokie GX-501...harder wearing compound.  You could travel across the continent and back and not see any significant tire wear.  Good handling for up to "spirited driving".  I understand why Ypkohama stopped making them...too few sales!

 

 

 Posted: Mar 15, 2015 04:59AM
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There is a lot more wrong with that car than the beige paint, not to mention the creation next to it.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Mar 15, 2015 12:13AM
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Originally Posted by Spitz

I'm sorry....those Goodyear 205 tyres just look a little silly on a classic MINI

Well, I admit they are a bit over the top—or at least close to the edge.Wink   But they fill the wheel wells nicely, look good from the side and are not too silly looking head-on.

The thing I like most about cars is how they can transcend barriers. It's unlike any other sport or activity I've been involved with. I've been to car shows in East LA and at Pebble Beach. I can enjoy the other guy's car though it might be light-years from what interests me.

Here's the weird thing. Given the broad range of cars I appriciate, my tastes become very narrow when it comes to Minis. Round nose vs. square nose, sliding windows vs. roll-ups, wet suspentions vs. dry. Skinny tires vs. fat tires. The list goes on. It never use to matter when I was talking to a gang-banger or a billionaire at a show. I'd end up fist-bumping with the young ones and knee-slapping with the old ones, as long as we were talking cars.

It's funny how narrow we can focus. Most people think we're driving Fiats.

[re: photo "Beige? Really!"]

 

Michael, Santa Barbara, CA

. . . the sled, not the flower

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 Posted: Mar 13, 2015 03:58AM
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on a similar subject, I've got 3 used double eagle 10"s here on LI, NY.  Anyone who wants them send me an em. Check my profile, and put mini in the subject box. Cheap or trade.

 

OK just got a look at them.  Double Eagle 20550-10  lots of tread. I can shoot a pic to your phone if you like.

 

 Posted: Mar 13, 2015 02:41AM
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I'm not going to get into the wheel conversation here, but I will vouch for the non DOT approved 165 Falken Radial Tires. I ran them on my 1966 Nitrous powered Austin Mini Pickup on the track, and on more than one Classic Mini Saloon and Countryman on the highways.                Mini Estate

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 Posted: Mar 12, 2015 10:27AM
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Some are stamped With load on the back,the Vikings ive seen on forums that almost everyone uses and look like the potenzas are stamped 500lbs 4 spoke style ones.

I dont plan to run a 205 cart tire,id love to have an A032r in a wider size though,the Jr. dragster slicks will be used for 1/4 mile track though.

 Posted: Mar 12, 2015 08:39AM
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Weller or Golf ?

 Posted: Mar 12, 2015 06:27AM
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I'm sorry....those Goodyear 205 tyres just look a little silly on a classic MINI

 

"Everybody should own a MINI at some point, or you are incomplete as a human being" - James May

"WET COOPER", Partsguy1 (Terry Snell of Penticton BC ) - Could you send the money for the unpaid parts and court fees.
Ordered so by a Judge

 

 

 

 Posted: Mar 12, 2015 06:06AM
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perhaps you talk of some stronger ones. The ones I have seen are very spindly indeed. 

Red one sold years ago. Blue one "tuned" a bit. 

 Posted: Mar 12, 2015 04:16AM
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Guess what,it seems possible for these golf cart wheels to maybe be proving to be a tad bit STRONGER then wheels that are on your every day mini that you say NOTHING about....do your math ...

ALSO ,a company makes a 1,000 pound rated wheel...for a GOLF CART,very well known company to BTW thst everyone in the world knows..my secret for my next golf cart wheel ...

I fear my minilites now and im glad sll the unsafe minis on the road arent around me...lol

 Posted: Mar 12, 2015 02:37AM
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Christ. There are some idiots on here. I am glad you are in the states where you can't crash into me. 

What part of your tiny minds cannot cope with the fact that a mini is not a golf cart or a trailer? 

A trailer tyre may be good for 200mph, it does not experience the sort of forces that a front tyre on a mini does. Think about it for a minute. The sidewalls are completely different. Often, you're looking at other carcass designs like crossply (I know many racing tyres are) and bias belting, as well as these in heavier forms. These DO NOT BEHAVE LIKE ROAD TYRES! Look at the bulge in that golf cart tyre (the centre of the tread). That is going to cause some significant heating when you drive it at highway speeds. How does the compound and the physical bonding to the carcass change at elevated temperatures? 

That golf cart wheel with the falken tyre on it below is shockingly flimsy. The forces you develop on a mini wheel can be very large. I know of several people who have torn centres out of wheels, both alloy and steel (on tracks). You are not on a track and you are not running car wheels. 

I am not some nanny state "ban everything" cuddly liberal, I'd happily run car tyres designed for a car on my car, regardless of whether they had ticked some regulatory box. I'm sure if I ran some CR70 racing tyres (not slicks) on my 66, a policeman would not notice. It would also be a 1 in a billion chance I was pulled for a vehicle inspection. Some of the racing tyres are not advised for road use because of flimsy sidewalls (light construction). These golf and trailer things are completely different animals. 

It is as barking mad as putting fork-lift tyres on your mini. You're putting everyone in danger, not only yourself here. 

Stop it. 

Edit:- I've seen thread on the internet that "This wheel is rated for 200kg". Are the spokes rated for the sort of forces you'd get going around a corner on 3 wheels? This is not an easy one to replicate in a lab. 

Red one sold years ago. Blue one "tuned" a bit. 

 Posted: Mar 11, 2015 04:29PM
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so where did you buy the the goodyear tires you have? i am interested in them as a knock around tire. i have seen prices from $285 for a set of 4 to $25 each? 

I bought the Goodyears from our host. I think they were about $38 bucks apiece at the time. It looks like they no longer carry them. I'm sure they're available elsewhere.

 

Michael, Santa Barbara, CA

. . . the sled, not the flower

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