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 Posted: Jul 5, 2015 07:00PM
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It seems 50 K miles seems a reasonable life expectancy.

As Kermit said in the other thread it is all about the components working together. For a road car, it can take a while to sort it all out.

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I've got over 50,000 miles on a set of Minispares' original Keith Dodd 1.5:1 forged ones.
Bushes and shaft are still fine, so are the pads.

Kevin G

1360 power- Morris 1300 auto block, S crank & rods, Russell Engineering RE282 sprint cam, over 125HP at crank, 86.6HP at the wheels @7000+.

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I am not sure any one is beating themselves up. I think I had a run of issues that would not be the standard experience with either roller tip, full roller or bushed.

I did get 70K+ miles on a set of 1.5 full rollers. Is that unusual or should I expect another set to last that long? The I had some issues. Now I have a set of bushed rockers. How long will the the new set last before needing to be re-bushed?

What is the life expectancy of a set of rockers?

Terry

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Why do you guys keep beating your selves up with this stuff.  1. this or that ain't.worth spit unless everything else plays well together well.  Waste of money, and roller rockers even for a mini racer is a formula for a DNF. Buy your wife something nice, it will be money better spent.

 

 

 

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Fifth change yesterday, but I changed the head gasket as well.

What appeared to be a leak along the head/block interface may have been drips from somewhere else as the MPi top hose runs along that side of the head.

 Posted: Jun 23, 2015 03:05AM
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Jemal loaned me his 1.3 set and offered to give me back my Dodds 1.5s, but I've been reading so much good stuff about those new Calvers.

 

The 1.4's ? Keith sent me a link about pricing, but link wouldn't open. What are they going to run ($$$) ?

Allow me -

£247.98 = $393.17 at todays exchange rate

//www.calverst.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=121

1.4:1 ratio rocker set     £247.98

1.4:1 ratio steel rocker set. Steel rocker arms used to maximise stiffness for weight. Rocker weighs a tiny 82 grams. Set is complete with CST superior quality rocker adjsuter screws, lock nuts, EN16T steel posts and thick wall rocker shaft. Rockers are fitted with bearing bronze bushes. Why 1.4 ratio? Simple - years of dyno testing all manner of engine builds with current cam profiles and cylinder head modifications has proven running a higher ratio and more lift is just torturing metal. No real worthwhile gains are made running to 0.500" valve lift, and valve train is put under far less stress. Historic racing regulations are being tightened up so roller rockers of any sort are not acceptable, and they are aestetically more pleasing than bulky aluminium arms.
1.4:1 ratio rocker set - Click Image to Close

I'd love a set of these, but can't afford one right now. 

The peasants are revolting...          

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 Posted: Jun 23, 2015 02:37AM
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Jemal loaned me his 1.3 set and offered to give me back my Dodds 1.5s, but I've been reading so much good stuff about those new Calvers.

 

The 1.4's ? Keith sent me a link about pricing, but link wouldn't open. What are they going to run ($$$) ?

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Jemal loaned me his 1.3 set and offered to give me back my Dodds 1.5s, but I've been reading so much good stuff about those new Calvers.

 

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That is pretty much what I did, but third time is the charm.

Four would be pushing with a slight leak already.

 Posted: Jun 22, 2015 03:36PM
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I've done this a few times:
Do it with engine cold.
Drain water below top of block.
Undo the 4 small rocker post nuts first.
Undo the 4 head nuts.
Swap rockers over (leave rocker screws loose for fitting).
Tighten the 4 head nuts first, torque to 40ft/lb.
Tighten 4 rocker post nuts.
Crack & retorque ALL head nuts in order, 1 at a time, to 40ft/lb or whatever.
Adjust rockers, fit cover, refill coolant, you are good to go.

Kevin G

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Swaps were made quickly but on a nine stud head.

Jemal, what is your re-torque procedure:

  • no loosening, just check torque
  • loosen and re-torque each nut individually
  • loosen all nut and re-torque all nuts

For the rocker swap:

  • just remove whats needed to be removed and leave the other nuts/studs alone?
  • loosen all and follow torque procedure

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With a bit of luck and working quickly, it should be quite doable!  What helps is having the 11 stud S-style head because otherwise, all remaining studs are in a line.  Either have your replacement set ready to put right back on, or have a set of dummy pedestals to torque the nuts back on.  I had to pull a Titan set off a race engine to restrict oil flow, and it was only a nine stud with 14 to 1 compression.  I quickly tightened the nuts back down onto dummy pedestals while I worked on the shaft. Several days later I put the modified shaft back on quickly and torqued the head back down.

 Posted: Jun 22, 2015 08:08AM
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How many times can you change the rockers without changing the head gasket?

Rebuilt engine

  • Harland Sharp rockers - did not work out, but engine had not been run yet
  • Switch to MS(Titan) roller rockers 1.3 version - found some eccentric roller tips - engine had 500 miles on it
  • Switch to used Titan roller rockers 1.5 version - broke a rocker
  • Switch to stock rocker - signs of leak showing after 1000+ miles

I think I was pushing it

Now I get to replace the gasket and install the Calver ST 1.4 rockers...