1960 850 with MG1100 engine.......
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I agree with Spitz on the issue of brake and a more powerful engine. Braking load is overcoming the inertia of the mass of the car. There is little difference in mass between an 850 and a 1275.
As I see it the significant difference would be in driving style - with a small motor one would take corners trying to keep momentum up; with a big motor, one could use it to accelerate and therefore brake hard, take the corner tighter, then accelerate out.
As I see it the significant difference would be in driving style - with a small motor one would take corners trying to keep momentum up; with a big motor, one could use it to accelerate and therefore brake hard, take the corner tighter, then accelerate out.
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I've had several 295s crack, both during and after seat installation.
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I've had several 295s crack, both during and after seat installation.
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Yes, they are around but mostly long of tooth. I had a Speedwell on a 997 which brought CR up to 11.5 to 1. Replaced it with a nice 202 and never looked back. I think someone pointed out there are several nice small bore casting. I have had good luck with the 295. Steve (CTR)
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I was also curious dose anyone make a alloy small bore head?
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I agree with Spitz on the issue of brake and a more powerful engine. Braking load is overcoming the inertia of the mass of the car. There is little difference in mass between an 850 and a 1275.
As I see it the significant difference would be in driving style - with a small motor one would take corners trying to keep momentum up; with a big motor, one could use it to accelerate and therefore brake hard, take the corner tighter, then accelerate out.
As I see it the significant difference would be in driving style - with a small motor one would take corners trying to keep momentum up; with a big motor, one could use it to accelerate and therefore brake hard, take the corner tighter, then accelerate out.
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You're right about that.
I've decided to stick with single leading on my 61. I don't plan on racing it.
It's a common comment for people to make " oh if you're fitting a 1275 you better fit disc brakes "
A 998 can be driven as hard and fast as a 1275….so a moot point
No doubt, discs are more efficient etc. I enjoy not having to adjust them….but twin leading worked fantastic on my slalom car, and stop on a dime…. and straight... if not neglected
I bought a 295 head with hardened valve seats built by a forum member here a number of years ago…no issues at all
I've decided to stick with single leading on my 61. I don't plan on racing it.
It's a common comment for people to make " oh if you're fitting a 1275 you better fit disc brakes "
A 998 can be driven as hard and fast as a 1275….so a moot point
No doubt, discs are more efficient etc. I enjoy not having to adjust them….but twin leading worked fantastic on my slalom car, and stop on a dime…. and straight... if not neglected
I bought a 295 head with hardened valve seats built by a forum member here a number of years ago…no issues at all
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I was also curious dose anyone make a alloy small bore head?
Whats all the talk about brakes? I have a 60 and I sold off the twin leading parts the previous owner was collecting and put all stock new stuff when I restored the car. Im not saying twin leading isn't better we all know it is but I wanted stock properly adjusted and maintained 1960 brakes work fine if you're just pleasure driving your mini they might heat to a concern in track use or high speed over 70. But I can stop as many times as I ever cared to try in a row from 65-70 mph and never not be able to skid the tires after that brakes don't matter anyway. I even rode them before hand to try and heat them up I wanted to know what the car would do worst case and it would still lock up if I pushed it hard enough.
I say this with no disrespect to those recommending a up grade I just don't see what the big deal is. Or is it more that people don't maintain their brakes and the later versions are more tolerant?
Whats all the talk about brakes? I have a 60 and I sold off the twin leading parts the previous owner was collecting and put all stock new stuff when I restored the car. Im not saying twin leading isn't better we all know it is but I wanted stock properly adjusted and maintained 1960 brakes work fine if you're just pleasure driving your mini they might heat to a concern in track use or high speed over 70. But I can stop as many times as I ever cared to try in a row from 65-70 mph and never not be able to skid the tires after that brakes don't matter anyway. I even rode them before hand to try and heat them up I wanted to know what the car would do worst case and it would still lock up if I pushed it hard enough.
I say this with no disrespect to those recommending a up grade I just don't see what the big deal is. Or is it more that people don't maintain their brakes and the later versions are more tolerant?
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Alex, what issues with hard seats in 295 heads. I try and make do with O/S exhaust valve to raise the seat and don't worry about lead. I have had hard seats installed in them. We have a SPI seat that works well in the 295. I recently invested in a new cutter just for the small bore exhaust seats. When the last shop I bought one for went out of biz and I lost that one.
I have had issues putting seats in MGB 1800 heads. Very easy to break into water on them.
A cyl. head on a engine I did awhile back suffered worn seats after a cross country and back trip. I think #3 was the worst but it was enough to require resetting valves to avoid a miss. I had requested hard seats but they failed to make it but I was charged. I believe the cam choice had something to do with the seat wear as well as the long miles climbing the great divide. The Piper and the SW5 are both going to be harder on valve train than other cams found in older engines. Steve (CTR)
I have had issues putting seats in MGB 1800 heads. Very easy to break into water on them.
A cyl. head on a engine I did awhile back suffered worn seats after a cross country and back trip. I think #3 was the worst but it was enough to require resetting valves to avoid a miss. I had requested hard seats but they failed to make it but I was charged. I believe the cam choice had something to do with the seat wear as well as the long miles climbing the great divide. The Piper and the SW5 are both going to be harder on valve train than other cams found in older engines. Steve (CTR)
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like Hugh said: Up grade from the 7 to 7.5" brakes. The stopping power will be very noticeable.
What carb and exhaust do you have?
air in/ air out is part of the key to performance.
What carb and exhaust do you have?
air in/ air out is part of the key to performance.
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I'd be tempted to leave the head alone and just run with a quality lead additive like Castol Valvemaster, or Redline Lead Substitute - I've had a few issues with putting hardened seats into 12G295 heads.
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My first Mini had an 1100 engine in it and it had crazy torque!
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The car does have 7" discs on the front but no servo (I do have one planned). She does rev quite high, takes off like a scalded cat so I think it may have the original diff. A local expert says he prefers the MG 1100 engine to the cooper because of the torque. As I understand it, the MG 1100 head has nice big valves ! It is beginning to look like I will be better off getting the original head re-built
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12G295, 12G202, and 12G206 (if memory serves me correctly) are all good small bore heads.
Was the differential changed as a stock MG 1100 will be pulling some serious revs at 60mph, great for autocross though
Was the differential changed as a stock MG 1100 will be pulling some serious revs at 60mph, great for autocross though
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Forget the head. I hope you or the previous owner upgraded the brakes. 1960 Minis had pretty lousy brakes.
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Do they make a Alloy head for the small bore engines?
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Originally Posted by exiledbrit
My little mini is in excellent condition and is basically stock including the magic wand gearshift but early in her life had the engine swapped for an MG1100 motor.
I plan to remove the head soon to replace the valve seats but might consider replacing the head with a new alloy or aluminum unit. Can anyone tell me what my options are, since the engine is clearly not a stock mini unit.
Steve
I plan to remove the head soon to replace the valve seats but might consider replacing the head with a new alloy or aluminum unit. Can anyone tell me what my options are, since the engine is clearly not a stock mini unit.
Steve
There is a good chance your 1100 has the best small bore head already in place. Pop the rocker cover off and look for the casting number 12G295. If so this is the head to run when decked for proper compression. So that brings up the next question ... what sort of pistons are hiding inside your engine? If "pop up" (high compression) pistons are in place they are probably factory matched to the cylinder head. If they are flat top or dished then more questions come up.
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My little mini is in excellent condition and is basically stock including the magic wand gearshift but early in her life had the engine swapped for an MG1100 motor.
I plan to remove the head soon to replace the valve seats but might consider replacing the head with a new alloy or aluminum unit. Can anyone tell me what my options are, since the engine is clearly not a stock mini unit.
Steve
I plan to remove the head soon to replace the valve seats but might consider replacing the head with a new alloy or aluminum unit. Can anyone tell me what my options are, since the engine is clearly not a stock mini unit.
Steve