How tight to go on castle nut
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No failures. Even our +200lb man bouncing on 12" wrench set the proper torque for the new CV & bearings in Queensland!
Incidentally, Ken N. in Ipswich, Qld. said setting pre-load with tapered roller bearings was easier/more accurate than with ball bearings.
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Our host doesn't have them, but they're easily sourced for purchase or borrowed.
Catalog.pdf
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Our host doesn't have them, but they're easily sourced for purchase or borrowed.
For example:
TOOL21
TLS3011
Also, don't over-grease the tapered roller bearings - it's another cause for failure.
Page 62 of the Timken Tapered Roller Bearing Catalogue has some guidance on proper lubrication.
Timken-Tapered-Roller-Bearing-Catalog.pdf
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Inner race was stuck to the CV and we did not have a brass drift to dislodge it. Installed new CV & bearings. Hub and original CV were inspected afterwards and found to be fit for service!
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Big Al had the same problem with a Mini pick up i was driving for him at MMN in Canada. I ended up using a washer to move the castle nut closer to the hole so it could be driven around for the weekend but this was not a long term solution. You can try this and run it around the block a few times and re check it but it seems like you need to pull it apart and see where the wear is.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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Maybe I should stop and take a picture.
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Take no notice of the "specialist" there are no shims, the only "adjustment" you can make is to shorten the spacer between the bearings if you need to.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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With the castle installed to 150lb the hole is a little too "in front of" the castle for the cotter to be "in the teeth" of the cotter. Does that make sense?
Washer needed? Shim? Where does the shim sit? Between the castle and the taper?
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when I bought my mini 13 yrs ago, one front wheel was wobbly. Local shop had no clue about its mini bearings and neither did I. They tightened it a little, (sort of 40 -50 lbs, not 150+ lbs) and I drove it for a few months. No rumbling as in impending bearing failure. Wheel did not fall off. After getting a Haynes manual, my sons and I replaced both inner and outer tapered rollers 9 on both fronts), tightened it properly, and no issue since then.
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If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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1) the wheel falls off.
2) the bearings burn up.
Question: what would the symptom be if the bearings were burning up?
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When in outback Australia without a torque wrench & blown wheel bearings up front. Got my +200 pond travel mate to bounce on the end of a 12" long wrench to snug up the Metro drive flange.
PHOTO: we are undoing the castle nut...looked the same snugging it up after new CV & bearings
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I have been building hubs for awhile and I save every spacer that come out of old sets. I have a length of tube that can be parted at different lengths if required. I also keep shims I use for testing, When to tight add shims till I have measurable end float using dial indicator, do the math and find or machine a spacer. I understand a better life though chemicals but I can't except glue as a replacement for a proper press fit.
I know the 7 inch disc use a replaceable spacer but have never seen one on a Cooper S 7.5 set up. Clearly I have not seen everything. As for how tight I like 150 and on to the next slot that lines up. Steve (CTR)
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I wasn't suggesting that this would be a solution for an oversized spacer..rather it would be the consequence of using a properly sized spacer with a worn flange.
More careful examination of the drawing suggests that the width of the ridge where the outer bearing races sit against the hub is the real controlling factor.
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If the spacer in the middle is too thick (quite common) no amount of monkeying about with the flanges or CV face will alter it or pull it up tighter...
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While the hub will wear if the outer bearing shell spins, the wear that can be resolved by machining the spacer is actually on the inner face of the drive flange. (Very?) Early Ss had a tapered spacer just like the one on the outside on the inner face as well. If there was wear, these could be easily replaced rather than having to change the whole drive flange....
Mind you, its easier to find a whole new flange these days (don't ask me how I know.....)
Cheers, Ian
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Even after new bearings were install there was still too much play in the hub. It was believed to be worn hub surface or face where the race is seated.
I've never given much thought to the load on the surface where the race is seated against the hub.
A digital micrometer was used to measure the distance between the races and then the spacer was measured, true to form the spacer was too wide not allowing a proper bearing seating. After the spacer was machined (several times) there was a perfect fit.
Wondering how many miles you can drive before the hub wears to the point of needing replacement.
Me, machining the spacer down (FREE) is cheaper than a new hub.
Edit, doesn't like the shortened name for Richard. Although Mr. Smith doesn't go by Richard, I'm not able or allowed to post his shortened name here. Funny
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If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.