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 Posted: Oct 19, 2016 12:00PM
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I tried one of those Turtle tire patch thing, it didnt work. 
I figured if you wanted a good tight seal patching you need to use heat to enable good adherance of the rubber patch.

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 Posted: Oct 14, 2016 11:19AM
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Well at least you know who to use in the future. Glad you got it sorted.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 14, 2016 11:06AM
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tried a different Discount Tire store and the guy changed it with no trouble at all.  go figure. 

 Posted: Oct 14, 2016 02:25AM
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Originally Posted by maj4479
Go full "man" on the offending tire and use a some sort of power tool.  If you are tempted to say "hey mom watch this."  Discretion is probably the better part of valor.
chainsaw.  
or draw & quarter it. 

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 06:37PM
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Go full "man" on the offending tire and use a some sort of power tool.  If you are tempted to say "hey mom watch this."  Discretion is probably the better part of valor.

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 03:34PM
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Originally Posted by maj4479
I assume you had to sign something making said tire shop not liable in any way.  Since you said the sidewall has a bulge in it, that means that the tire has structurally failed.  It will not just lose air, it will explode in my experience.  Wish you the best of luck but, very risky to use that tire in any way shape or form.
ya.  I'm just going to order another single tire combo and hope i don't have a sidewall puncture for a while.  when the tires get worn out i'll consider buying a whole new set of wheel/tire combos. unless i find a way to change these tires in the mean time.
they're 6x10 revolutions.  rev06's.  Someone put them on somehow.  

I do think I could cut them off without damaging the rim with some soap, a sharp knife and some snips. 

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 03:20PM
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I assume you had to sign something making said tire shop not liable in any way.  Since you said the sidewall has a bulge in it, that means that the tire has structurally failed.  It will not just lose air, it will explode in my experience.  Wish you the best of luck but, very risky to use that tire in any way shape or form.

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 01:29PM
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Putting them on is easy you can do it by hand no tire machine needed, getting them off is a different story it still can be done by hand but you have those aftermarket wheels which will make it a lot more difficult.
I don't think cutting the bead would be an option without damaging the wheel.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 12:39PM
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okay.  got the tire patched but they marred the wheel a bit. and there's a slight bulge in the sidewall.  looks like time for a rubber.  I might take a gamble and order one more revolution tire/wheel combo and hope I can go a few years without such an unfortunate puncture (i feel a tread puncture could be plugged without a problem), and keep this marred one for a spare.  I don't feel like investing in a whole new wheel/tire set since these have under 500 miles on them.  
I really like the 6x10's.  if I did go all new,  do Mamba 6x10's have a better reputation for successful mounting? 


also?  You tire experts out there? is it removing the tire that's the huge hassle?  could an old tire be cut off and a new tire installed without as much issue?  It took these guys forever to get the tire off, but no time at all to get it back on. 

thanks!

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 08:50AM
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Oh man that stinks.  It is too close to the shoulder of the tire.  There aren't any steel belts at that point so there no rigidity for sidewall/shoulder flexing.  Sorry buddy new hoop only. 

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 06:08AM
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Originally Posted by Morninglightmountain
this is the culprit.
right on the edge.  going to try to get patched today or tomorrow.  if no success a new plug with lots of cement.
Yep - that's one that no one will patch and plugs don't generally work there. 

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 04:45AM
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There was a thread on the MK 1 board recently about this issue. I don't recall the out come but I don't think I'd buy a set of those wheels. Dunlop D 1 s have to be mounted from the rear. My local tire shop mounts and balances my 10 s, 12 s and any other tire rim combo. A no touch changer does it with no issue. Steve (CTR)

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 04:13AM
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Ditto what Jedduh said. I have heard (but never done it) that some of those aftermarket reproduction wheels depending where the trough/lowest point of the rim is located need to have the tires removed from the backside.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 03:53AM
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Sketchy - that is on the edge of tread and sidewall...

   I wouldn't be suprised if alot of tires places don't want to patch that. Even for liablitiy reasons. Most full back patches need the flat side of the tire to go thru and glue to = the sidewall corner causes issues.
 I know my local place wouldn't touch that...

You might need to consider a new tyre or a tube!!! 

 Posted: Oct 13, 2016 03:45AM
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this is the culprit.
right on the edge.  going to try to get patched today or tomorrow.  if no success a new plug with lots of cement.

 Posted: Oct 12, 2016 08:47PM
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Plugs on the edge of tread n sidewall do not work good and could be considered dangerous. Have never had a plug fail if just in the tread, sometimes it takes more than one plug in the same hole but that's a huge hole, sometimes it takes several tries to get it to release properly in the hole. Do you coat it with a liberal amount of cement while inserting?

 Posted: Oct 12, 2016 06:22PM
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it's a pretty new revolution.  I'm going to try discount tire tomorrow.  then maybe another small shop.
i'd prefer to have it patched from the inside.  If I can't I'll try another plug and goop it waaaay up.  
if they can get it half off i wonder if it can be patched still partially on the rim? 

 Posted: Oct 12, 2016 06:06PM
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If it's not an original Revolution wheel that's the problem! The reproductions don't have the well in the right place and it's a bugger to mount and dismount the tires. But if your using a plug you shouldn't have to remove the tire anyway? make sure the tyre has pressure in it and use the thick goopy plugs making sure you use the file/rasp to clean and prepare the hole. I've never had one come out if fitted correctly.

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 Posted: Oct 12, 2016 05:50PM
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okay.  gotta find a place who'll do it by hand.  hopefully not a lost art around here.  

 Posted: Oct 12, 2016 05:29PM
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