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 Posted: Dec 5, 2016 12:36PM
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Miniscule torque on the ¼" bolts, you will almost certainly overtighten them if you use a spanner or a ratchet.

It's in the front of Chapter One, in amongst the torque settings for the engine.

 Posted: Dec 5, 2016 11:06AM
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Thanks all!


I am using a paper gasket and liquid gasket. I have noticed that when I take the gasket out it is split a bit. I think I'm overtorquing. 5-12lb is tiny pressure, yeah?

I didn't even see that rec in the haynes...

 Posted: Dec 2, 2016 02:03PM
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This tip from someone who is not able to respond directly:

" I have the answer for Easteregg about his leaking timing chain cover gasket because the same thing happened to me in a motor I rebuilt for a friend. In my case the leak was caused by using an A type gasket on an A plus motor which left a small gap at the bottom front of the cover."

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"Hang on a minute lads....I've got a great idea."

 Posted: Dec 2, 2016 01:02PM
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Did you use liquid gasket with a gasket also or on it's own with no gasket ?
Over the years the bolt holes in the timing cover get stretched to where if you put a flat edge across them the holes protrude so if you used just the liquid gasket with no paper gasket it may be leaking there. I presume you centered the pulley before fully tightening everything up this time.
You should be able to see if the gasket or the seal is the one leaking.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Dec 2, 2016 12:57PM
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As I mentioned before there are two VERY short bolts that go in the bottom of the cover if these are not used or put in the wrong spot you WILL get a leak exactly as you described

Mini's are like buses they come along in a bunch

 Posted: Dec 2, 2016 10:29AM
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If you overtighten the bolts that hold the cover on you will split the gasket and bend the seal face.

When the book says 5 & 12 lbft it means 5 & 12 lbft, and you need a rinky-dink torque wrench.

 Posted: Dec 2, 2016 07:46AM
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Appears to be leaking from the bottom of the gasket...unless its coming from the seal and dripping down. 

 Posted: Dec 2, 2016 07:12AM
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Hey folks!

Did the job the second time...the right way. 

AAANNDDD it still leaks. Worse now. I used liquid gasket on it. Any reasons to look for?

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 09:16AM
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Originally Posted by easteregg
I just read back. You 200% mentioned that in your post. What a dummy I am. 

I'll just tear into it this weekend. I think I can get at it with the alternator and water pump out. We'll see. 

Thanks, guys. 
Good luck with that . You may get to some of the bolts that way but i can assure you the only way to do it right and as i am sure you don't want to do this job a 3rd time is to just take it apart completely as you did before and replace the gasket and seal again especially if you used any type of sealer on the gasket which has now set hard, at least that's the way i would do it.
Make sure there are no grooves or ridges on the seal face of the crank pulley, you need a smooth surface to make the new seal work correctly.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 09:03AM
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Yeah, the bolts all went back from whence they came. There was one that was stripped, so I used a bolt and nut. There was room enough on the backside of the case. 

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 09:01AM
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I just read back. You 200% mentioned that in your post. What a dummy I am. 

I'll just tear into it this weekend. I think I can get at it with the alternator and water pump out. We'll see. 

Thanks, guys. 

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 08:57AM
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Did you put the two short 1/4 bolts back in the same spot? maybe your pushing the plate off the block face?

Mini's are like buses they come along in a bunch

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 08:55AM
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I definitely mentioned in your previous posts on how to do the job. It's all good it just sucks because you still have the same problem.
If it were me i would just bite the bullet an re do the job sooner than later.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 08:09AM
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Alright, alright, maybe you did. Is this where I beg for forgiveness? I'm new to this stuff, be nice. 

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 07:58AM
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I think we did...

It will only get worse, and as it does worsen the fan will fling the leaking oil EVERYWHERE.

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 07:39AM
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Damn.  When did you tell me that!?

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 07:35AM
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Well sorry to say that's probably why it is leaking.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 07:35AM
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So I'll just have to determine how badly I want to stop the little leak. The good news (sorta) is that it'll only leak when running, right?

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 07:26AM
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Of course I didn't...that would have been the correct thing to do.

Joel

 Posted: Oct 18, 2016 04:19AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by easteregg
Thanks to all of you, I did the timing chain, water pump, seals, gaskets, etc. 

One issue. Ran it last night and noticed a little oil under where the timing chain cover is...right by the motor mount. I'm guessing I did something wrong...orrrrrr is it possible it take a bit for the seal to sop up some oil and expand?
No if seals leak from the start from what i have seen they continue to leak. Was the pulley surface where the seal runs smooth or did it have grooves in it ? Did you center the cover with the pulley loosely in place before tightening all the bolts like i suggested ?

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

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