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 Posted: Oct 27, 2014 04:00PM
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well did you get this 73 classic mini registred?/ with the new law VIN 2014- 14  I am wondering IF it even be done now in California for 67 or newer??

 Posted: Sep 24, 2014 07:23AM
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Originally Posted by robster

mine has 2, one attached to the motor and one near the drivers door.  but the one on the door is secured by 2 metal screws, i need to change it to rivette so it looks permanent

Is it a Canadian Mini as they had them on the door posts ? Normally UK vin plates were attached to the slam panel, inner fender or in the trunk, the one on the engine should just be the engine number which does not match a vin number.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Sep 24, 2014 07:14AM
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Hi Nicole, went thru similar in AZ, HS-7 with a Level II check from MVD should do the trick. But after the fact, I found data plate pax side behind AC condenser fan shroud and second vin # stamped under hood seal in front of wipers. Hope that helps. Pat

 Posted: Sep 24, 2014 05:26AM
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mine has 2, one attached to the motor and one near the drivers door.  but the one on the door is secured by 2 metal screws, i need to change it to rivette so it looks permanent

 

 Posted: Sep 24, 2014 04:18AM
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Originally Posted by thewerewolf

well according to new law with CARB.as of 15 june 14. VIN 2014.14. you can NOT register anything 1967 or new without letter of compliance from the manufacture.   MINI MOVER has posted this on recent post. I can fax you copy if needed.  my friend  just tried to register 73 Citoren DS. he got his Calli tag and Reg. but then  Calli DMV CANCELLED a month later and came TOOK his Calli TAG month later..  and to boot DMV LOST his original title from NL.   The cost for the smog test is $2500 I am told by legal at CARB..  I  think I would only buy in  car 66 or newer within the state.. most states allow you  to apply for state vin number  if  are missing vin number or even if you have NO title with title bond...  no big deal... 

I'd take BC's advice on this one if I were in California.  All this talk about VIN nazls and registering in CA makes me glad I live in a good ol' southern state with no state inspections, etc.

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 Posted: Sep 23, 2014 06:32PM
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 Posted: Sep 23, 2014 03:10PM
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Originally Posted by Turk33

If I buy a 1977 mini would I be able to smog it in southern California?

No.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Sep 23, 2014 02:39PM
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If I buy a 1977 mini would I be able to smog it in southern California?

 Posted: Jan 7, 2012 12:45AM
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steve don't want to get the po po involved because he knows they will ask what happened to the original vin plate. if it is illegal to alter the vin on newer minis it is also illegal to completely remove the tag which is also altering it. what happened to the minis original identity steve? is there a 62 airbag car running around your area now? stupic! 

 Posted: Jan 6, 2012 11:27PM
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Spank, I have heard, on more that one occasion, from guys that tried to get an incomplete car "verified" or VIN checked, that they won't do it until it is "a car" again. I don't want to take the chance on wasting a bunch of time for nothing, and I get the heebe jeebies when I go anywhere near a place where there are badges and uniforms. I certainly would never voluntarily go onto the premise of any law enforcement agency; that's like rubbing blood all over your body and jumping into a shark feeding frenzy. 

 I might have to let the buyer deal with it, unless I can easily come up with a VIN tag, and some reverse number/letter stamps.

BTW, I have no way of proving to anybody, much less to a cop, that it is a 62 shell; Graham told me it was a 62, and so I believe him. No reasonable person is going to dispute it, other than the cops of course, who will because "they can"

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 Posted: Jan 6, 2012 08:07PM
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 Posted: Jan 6, 2012 03:49PM
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Steve, don't ask the question if you already know the answer.

Someone already told you what you need to do: To avoid potential repercussions for either you or the new buyer, take the shell parts to the CHP inspection office (the same place you go to have a fix-it ticket signed off) and they will rivet on a California-asigned VIN that will bear no resemblance whatsoever to the original VIN sequence for Austin/Morris cars. They will also assign it a year designation based on the information they have (or that you bring with you) to help them determine the year of manufacture. CHP WILL give a number to "a piece of tin".

Or you can of course stamp whateverthehellyouwant and write down whateverthehellyouwant in your bill of sale to the new owner.

Or you can just sell them a piece of tin and let them deal with it however it suits their conscience.

 

 Posted: Jan 6, 2012 02:51PM
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This is a BARE shell, not even a hood, boot or doors on it, or a single bolt;  that makes it a piece of tin, not a car.  You can't get CHP or anyone to VIN a piece of tin.  I will not get involved in taking it anywhere.  Don't really care about "legalities"; everything is pretty much illegal, that is worth doing.  Not interested in NEGATIVE warnings or suggestions, as I mentioned already, I have heard them all a hundred times.  Just looking for some way to help the next owner get down the road.

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 Posted: Jan 6, 2012 12:35AM
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I had a '71 (supposedly) Mini VTEC racecar that was brought into CA where no one could locate the VIN.

The CHP inspected and gave the car an OK. It had a title though with a valid VIN on it - just no VIN on the car.

I also had a '78 Yamaha SR500 with under 3k miles on it that I brought in from another state and the DMV "manager" simply let it pass visual - I did trailer it to the DMV though.

 

So, you never know what the DMV, or even the CHP for that matter, will say about your vehicle when you bring it to them.

Best to go informed and with a good attitude - hopefully you get someone who will cut you some slack.

 

 Posted: Jan 6, 2012 12:31AM
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Well, it would be illegal to simply create your own VIN and stamp it onto the car, even if it might pass with the unknowing DMV.

There should be a process for you to go through to get the car re-VIN'd legally.

This might possibly be through the CHP or some process to get a "salvaged" car unsalvaged.

Also, if you can get a "bill of sale" from the person you got it from (DMV has its own bill of sale form you can use) it would most likely come in handy for re-titling the car.

 Posted: Jan 5, 2012 11:51PM
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I bought an obviously early mk1 bare shell from a local well known shop(actually traded), that has no paperwork, not even a receipt.  It also has no VIN on the body anywhere that I can find,  The fan shroud has been removed as well, probably for the affixed VIN tag value. I am in the process of selling the shell as I received it, and the buyer is coming soon to pick it up.  I am wondering if I can create a VIN tag/number for the car, without running into difficulties, or additional time/work, outside of buying a blank plate and stamping it. There is nothing to hide, just wanting to make it easier on the buyer to deal with.  Please, no negative coments...I have heard it all before.

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 Posted: Jan 5, 2012 08:35PM
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The screwed up thing about California is the year 75 rule does not roll over afaik it stays at 1975 which i guess in effect means less classics on the road eventually which may be what they want.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Jan 5, 2012 07:22PM
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1975 and older vehicles are smog exempt in California.

A vehicle that is at least 25 years old (rolling) for historic use and for display can be issued plates for the purposes of a collector who is showing/preserving a car of historic value and bringing it to/from car shows and repair facilities. But you start splitting hairs if you try to go that route.

 Posted: Jan 5, 2012 06:07PM
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In 2007, i registered my 1975 with no problems.

 Posted: Jan 5, 2012 04:34PM
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I think 73 is the cut off date Mike.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

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