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Aug-23-2008 04:43PM Club Man   859625
Aug-23-2008 04:25AM QuickSilver   859516
Aug-23-2008 04:09AM THE MINI MOVER   859513
Aug-23-2008 03:56AM Alex   859511
Aug-23-2008 03:54AM Club Man Edited: Aug-23-2008 04:50PM   859510
Aug-23-2008 02:30AM IK   859505
Aug-22-2008 01:15PM MD-IN-UK   859410
Aug-22-2008 12:27PM QuickSilver   859401
Aug-22-2008 11:48AM BrownDuck   859384
Aug-22-2008 11:42AM zip-tph   859383
Aug-22-2008 11:24AM BrownDuck   859379
Aug-22-2008 10:40AM Dean2   859370
Aug-22-2008 10:30AM mtgibby   859369
Aug-22-2008 10:14AM notabmw   859367
Aug-22-2008 09:39AM ThudMeister   859360
Aug-22-2008 09:29AM Hunter2   859357
Aug-22-2008 08:37AM fitz1tj   859349
Aug-22-2008 08:18AM Swift Justice   859343
Aug-22-2008 08:11AM helpmymini   859339
Aug-22-2008 07:43AM mur   859331

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 Poll:  Total votes: 33
Would you commute in a non caged Moke?
Absolutely.
Heck no hombre.
I plead my fifth.
  
 
 Posted: Aug-23-2008 04:43PM
Club Man
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sorry my transpositions annoy you sensitive grammarians....maybe you both missed your callings and should have become librarians or english teachers.... guess I'm lucky I can spell Moke....

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/grammarian.htm

Make it idiot proof, and someone will make a better idiot....

 

 Posted: Aug-23-2008 04:25AM
QuickSilver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THE MINI MOVER

Driving a moke in full dress, Side curtains on and down , can be deadly in traffic-

BTW, just found out two new words from this thread- "garauntee" & "indercating" -Always a great source for the unwashed -

BIG AL-In the colonies-

I was going to say something but then I remembered my place as a third world non english speaking native  

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 Posted: Aug-23-2008 04:09AM
THE MINI MOVER
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Driving a moke in full dress, Side curtains on and down , can be deadly in traffic-

BTW, just found out two new words from this thread- "garauntee" & "indercating" -Always a great source for the unwashed -

BIG AL-In the colonies-

 


 Posted: Aug-23-2008 03:56AM
Alex
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To missquote a famous statesman: "Drive a small car, but carry a big horn..."

On the few occasions that I have unleashed either the bullhorn or the klaxxon at unwary idiots, the result has been priceless.

Autozone (I think) do a fantastic compact twin tone airhorn that looks like a std Mini horn - except that it has 130odd Db !!
Well worth the $49.95.

Metric is for people who can't do fractions.

 Posted: Aug-23-2008 03:54AM
 Edited:  Aug-23-2008 04:50PM
Club Man
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I probably wouldn't commute in Tampa in a Moke, so I voted no. I do commute in a Mini often and had done so for 3 years straight without problems. Without A/C I figue that's Mini dedication.

However, what is "unecessary risk"? Life is for living. Somethings make you feel more alive than others. Enjoy. You don't want to be on your deathbed in the nursing home wishing "If I had only....." Do what pleases you. Nod politely when others tell you how you should live your life. Then, do as you please. No one has any guarantee of how many hours they have left. Enjoy each one as it comes. Moke on, Quick!

Make it idiot proof, and someone will make a better idiot....

 

 Posted: Aug-23-2008 02:30AM
IK
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Originally Posted by QuickSilver

During conversation at a stoplight this morning I was told by another motorist that it seems that I was taking an "unecessary risk" by commuting in ole Yella Feva.

This motorist stated that we seem to have the same commute hours as he see's me quite often.

I ponder on that for a minute and I don't think I am. I am on top of maintenance, I drive like I am riding a motorcyle and pretend that "they" can't see me. I give signals before I change lanes (some may argue that it is not prudent to do so in DFW area) and I even add hand signals when appropriate (not finger signal).

So what says ye, is it an unacceptable risk to commute in the Moke? Am I the only one doing as such in NA?

Its against the law in N.Z and germany to change lanes without indercation.

On the German autobahns speeding was never an offence, but they punished severly for being in the wrong lane(fastest on the inside slowest on the outside) and not indercating when changing lanes. Also if you were rear ended it was the person in fronts fualt for not pulling over for the faster vehicle.(should always check your mirrors every ~10seconds, befor slowing,befor turning and after every turn into a new street)

there is now speed limits on ~90% of the autobahn.

They didnt preach "stay at a safe speed" because if everyone is self aware, aware of everyone else and soley focused on driving, any speed is a safe speed. And I agree.

 

 

Everyone should learn to ride a motorcycle/scooter before they drive a car, because it teaches you to look out for yourself and everyone else. Because if you dont, your as good as DEAD.

SUVs should be for offroad use only or classed as small trucks, pay the levies and the driver should have the proper small truck liscence.

[~ = approximate fore those of you who dont know.]

People are like slinkeys; they dont really serve a purpose but you cant help laughing when one falls down the stairs.

 Posted: Aug-22-2008 01:15PM
MD-IN-UK
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Originally Posted by fitz1tj

I drove the Mini to work today as well - my commute is 31 miles each way, mostly on congested interstates.  Is it less safe than a modern car?  Yes, if you get hit.

I too try my best to think like I'm riding a bike.  I think the guy you were talking to was the one taking an unecessary risk, by talking to a guy driving a moke on his commute...I mean, really, you must be out of your mind...

Hey TJ, got my turn signals and flashers working, so commuting everyday legally is very possible now. However, just like riding a motorcycle, you gotta be careful. At least in a Mini, the emergancy crew won't have to look very far for my body.......Cool

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 Posted: Aug-22-2008 12:27PM
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Originally Posted by ThudMeister

Since my Harley just got totalled, I will be commuting 55 miles round trip everyday in my classic Mini, that is until my Aptera is delivered.

Any small vehicle is a commuting risk when those big SUVs and Commercial trucks are flying around beside you.

I just got a fast track transponder so I can stay in the car pool lanes with my classic Mini.  i won't need it with the Aptera since it is car pool legal off the show room floor.

Niceness.

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 Posted: Aug-22-2008 11:48AM
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Hey.  How did you know that I was part Scottish?

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Served with a side of melted peanut butter toast.

 Posted: Aug-22-2008 11:42AM
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"...Seriously.  I probably would not drive it to work very often based primarily on my current dress code requirements..."

Kilt?

  

 

 Posted: Aug-22-2008 11:24AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by QuickSilver

So what says ye, is it an unacceptable risk to commute in the Moke?

Yes.  Therefore you should sell me your Moke at a skinflint price.  And then I can take the unacceptable risk.

Seriously.  I probably would not drive it to work very often based primarily on my current dress code requirements. 

Quack.  Quack.   Orange Cream soda.  Shaken, not stirred.
Served with a side of melted peanut butter toast.

 Posted: Aug-22-2008 10:40AM
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I don't really see my saloon as being much safer than a Moke and I'd drive my car pretty much anywhere.

Thanks to the Interstate Highway System, it is now possible to travel from coast to coast without seeing anything.
Charles Kuralt

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 Posted: Aug-22-2008 10:30AM
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I guess it comes down to what is "unecessary risk" and what is "acceptable risk".

I would not show my wife the photos of the wrecked Mokes we have seen posted in the last year.  If I did, she would never let the kids ride in one.

There is always risk.  The golden bb could come out of nowhere and get you.

The less cage you have around you, the more risk you take.  Be it a saloon car, a Californian with a full cage, or an open Moke.

Have fun, but be careful!

 

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"Democracy is two wolfs and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

 Posted: Aug-22-2008 10:14AM
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My father always tells me it is too dangerous to drive in a mini.  I tell him two things:

1) It is too small to hit

2) I drive fast to minimize the odds of getting hit.  Spend less time in one spot thus less likely to get hit.

He thinks I am nuts..  He's probably right

 

Never put off till tomorrow what you can avoid all together.

 Posted: Aug-22-2008 09:39AM
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Since my Harley just got totalled, I will be commuting 55 miles round trip everyday in my classic Mini, that is until my Aptera is delivered.

Any small vehicle is a commuting risk when those big SUVs and Commercial trucks are flying around beside you.

I just got a fast track transponder so I can stay in the car pool lanes with my classic Mini.  i won't need it with the Aptera since it is car pool legal off the show room floor.

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 Posted: Aug-22-2008 09:29AM
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Drove up the valley to Mission twice in the last two days (100 miles combined).  I'm bright "yellow" with all lights on and one turkey turned into green light traffic from a red light as if I didn't exist...we just have to be prepared for the "I am bigger" folks who act accordingly.

Reminds me of university days when my car pool mate drove an '48 Chrysler with bumpers that must have weighed as much as a Moke.  He was hoping to get a job crushing motorist morons.  In reality, he got in on the ground floor of the McDonald's restaurant chain development in Canada.  No he never wore the Ronald suit.

Moke away!

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 Posted: Aug-22-2008 08:37AM
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I drove the Mini to work today as well - my commute is 31 miles each way, mostly on congested interstates.  Is it less safe than a modern car?  Yes, if you get hit.

I too try my best to think like I'm riding a bike.  I think the guy you were talking to was the one taking an unecessary risk, by talking to a guy driving a moke on his commute...I mean, really, you must be out of your mind...

Nothing is so bad that you can't make it worse by doing something rash or going berserk.

 Posted: Aug-22-2008 08:18AM
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I've always thought that I wanted an Aussie Californian simply for the nifty roll bar.  Then I realized what the roll bar is bolted too, and gave up on having to have one (but on not having a Moke).

Quickie, my opinion is "screw 'em all" - drive what you want to drive. (said from someone who drove his mini to work today) 

Steve

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 Posted: Aug-22-2008 08:11AM
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Do you think Hummer drivers are taking a risk they may injure someone in the several blind spots? I feel strongly that if everyone drove minis, we would all be safer. If it was between Sherman tanks and Hummers, I bet the Bummers would be taking a risk.

I would not NOT drive a Moke because of the risk. I'm just not a Moke person. I would however drive a mini every day if I could.

Mark Looman, Ada Michigan 1967 Austin Cooper S

 Posted: Aug-22-2008 07:43AM
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What if you got run over by a supertanker?  Those things take miles to stop.  You'd be crushed.

Or a 747 cargoliner!!!  one million one hundred thousand pounds takeoff weight.  Those nits who think they are safe in a Hummer need a reality check.

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