Carb Swapping Advice
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I recently ran into almost the same problem. I replaced the exhaust manifold in my car (Mk1 with a 1275 of unknown origin). After a quick drive I realized that it was idling really high. It turns out that the new manifold was limiting the travel of the throttle linkage that connect the dual HS2s. No orientation of the triangular butterfly linkage (12A310) would clear the center pipe of the exhaust manifold. Finally I realized that I had the wrong manifold on the car. It is a 12G299 that appears to come from an MG1100 with the 10 degree angle on the carbs. I’ve borrowed a 12A661 to get the car back on the road, but now I’m trying to decide what to buy as a permanent replacement. I’ve always felt that you never squander the opportunity with a repair to make something better than it was.
From reading around the web, it appears like there is little love for the original manifold from a flow / performance perspective. Since my car is already a frankencar, I’m not overly concerned with keeping it all original. What manifolds are people using with their twin HS2s? I’ve seen a number of people recommend the Maniflow option, but details are scant.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
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You can re-use the carbs on a Mini 1275, but you need manifold C-AEG488, half inch longer throttle and choke rods, and a pair of 30° carb float grommets AUC1316 and AUC1136. The needles may need changing as well, M for standard Cooper S spec. All available from our host.
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This is how they should look (angle etc. )
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If you do not have the depressed area below the speedo hole and want to use a single carb you may need an MG Metro intake to clear the bulkhead. It sometimes can be done without that intake but will require a thin spacer and massaging the linkage.
If you don't drive in extremely cold weather and decide to use a HS4 you can cut the intake off a cast iron intake/exhaust combo and that will give you the correct angle and clearance, if not you may need a water heated inlet manifold which most if not all aftermarket ones are.
Unfortunately there is no one answer to the carb interchangeability on Mini's that have had engine and exhaust changes and it may well be cheaper to fix or alter what you currently have installed.
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It looks like if you even just go thinner Carb spacers the Bowls will contact the heat shield... by being pushed in more.
That still leads to needing the correct bowl angle mounts and a manifold with shorter studs (shorten the spacer the studs left will be too long.
I have a HS6 , Single Carb SU on my car and love it = Easy access all around. No Integral lower bowl like the HIF to contact the fire wall= Easily fits. You can get a HS6 From a Volvo p1800, little bit of work on the linkages and it will work.
Either way you go youll be replacing the Manifold
https://www.minimania.com/part/AUC1366/Classic-Mini-Su-Hs2-And-Hs4-Float-Bowl-Grommet-30-Degree
There is a good chance our Forum host has used parts to piece together a 'proper' mini intake setup. Give them a call!
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If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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While the inlet manifold, spacers and float bowl angles are wrong, the exact style of wrong, be it MG Midget/AH Sprite-my own guess or perhaps twin carb ADO 16 derived is hard to tell. Still, the right parts for this are all that is needed.
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LHD and twin carbs is tricky but can be done with the right parts. I have seen offset pancake filters for sale which work with LHD.
If you do not have the lowered section under the speedometer hole in the bulkhead a HIF may be an issue to fit without moving the engine forward. If you really want to go with a single set up a HS4 might be your best option.
Another option is an adjustable steady bar but it will not give you all the room you need.
Also another thought is maybe the newer plastic master cylinders have more clearance as their bowls sit more to the rear.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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1/8th spacers for sure.
The manifold has more angle
and the float bowls have corresponding correcting angle too.
I would bet your whole 1275 Lump is from an Austin Amercia and the front timing cover stil lhas the 'tabs" for the different frame mounting of the AA = the swap is done in to a mini but these carbs needed to change to be PROPER.
Replacment Manifold will kick UP the carb angle
Have shorter studs for the thinner spacers
and thus convert the space behind thecarbs to aid in filters... Proper filters must be sourced too LHD are 'different " because of the Cylnders in the space.
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Mini's are like buses they come along in a bunch
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I have been talking with a guy in Britain with a HIF44 setup using a Metro intake. Have also been looking for a setup using HS4 but have not found one. I was told this engine was a Metro unit built back in the 80's by "some guy in Virginia"
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It is that easy.
One other point that is often not mentioned: speedometer cables have a hard time passing modern single carbs with performance oriented air filters.
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Cannot read any casting number on intake while carbs are mounted. The phnolic (sp) spacers are 5/8" Can reduce them more but cutting them and the mounting studs in a PIA.
I have been talking with a guy in Britain with a HIF44 setup using a Metro intake. Have also been looking for a setup using HS4 but have not found one.
I was told this engine was a Metro unit built back in the 80's by "some guy in Virginia"
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