Help ! Need factory rod type shift lever.
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Mileage has nothing at all to do with the reverse bush coming out and fouling, in fact a decent argument could be postulated for a lower mileage car that has seen a lot of city work being more prone due to the increased use of reverse...
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Are you being deliberately obtuse ?
There are two potential problems facing you - a dodgy linkage or a buggered reverse gear.
Changing your linkage will tell you which it is without even starting the engine.
I suspect Darren has taken a tangent on the possibility of a transmission problem, which is less likely in a car with lower mileage that his has.
I think the first thing for Darren to do is to actually get under the car and check that all the existing linkage connections are in good order, stating withe the shifter support bobbins and working forward to the barrel with the roll pins and the bolts in the steady rod. The rods should be straight and true with only the factory bends and should not sag down or sideways. Nothing should rattle easily. The last place to check is here the shift shaft enters the transmission - is the bellows boot in good condition and behind it is the shaft seal and any bushing properly located? (It may have received a leak repair kit which includes a spacer/bushing that not all transmissions use.) It may have slipped out.
If all those things are in good condition, THEN suspect the quick-shift and check and remedy it.
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Are you being deliberately obtuse ?
There are two potential problems facing you - a dodgy linkage or a buggered reverse gear.
Changing your linkage will tell you which it is without even starting the engine.
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The good news is that although you'd need to pull the engine out and split it all down, the actual repair takes seconds.”
To addess your first sentence Alex, I have read of more poeople ( not just on Classic Minis ) who advice people to steer clear of short shift gear lever kits. Also quite a few on this forum say steer clear of them. Do I quick netsearch and you will see what I mean. Also, please correct me if I’m wrong , but I thought it was you who pointed out that the transmission determines the shift speed , and not the “ short shifter ? Is this one of the things you learned when you pulled the engine ?
Secondly, I have watched enough views of changes to the shifter from standard shifter to “short shifter”, and NONE involved either removing the engine, nor removing the transmission from the engine. Would you please comment on this. Thanks bro, Darren.
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The good news is that although you'd need to pull the engine out and split it all down, the actual repair takes seconds.
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It might not be the gearlever !
Late 80s cars had a split bush fitted to the reverse gear instead of a single piece bush, and they *can* wriggle out. I've had a couple do it.
One of the symptoms is an inability to go across the H-gate smoothly as the selector bellcranks are out of line. On my Metro it ended up being impossible to use anything other than first or second and effectively wrote the car off (though the engine lives on in Tennessee and the gearbox did sterling service in Betty after a strip & rebuild).
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YOUR parts, you’ll never hear a peep from me again. I paid top dollar for a car that is not drivable. You are
solving that.
I will expect ( I have all the letters saved in case I need to prove ANYTHING) the parts in the 5 to 6 days
as you told me ( and I saved ) , and we will officially conclude our differences. Or at least I will with you.
I’m very tired of this too.
Darren.
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I am really starting to lose my patience with this and its not going to continue... we talk about one thing, come to an agreeance, then you post completely different details on the forum slandering my name & business... This isnt new its been happening for over a month now on MM (and much longer through messenger) I shouldn't have to check this forum every day to make sure you haven't been running your mouth and spouting off a lie about me or my company.If this continues I WILL be taking legal action.
For our viewers here is an example... Tonight at 7:15pm MST Darren sent me an email saying and I quote.
"Hi Braden. Thank you. We appear to be of the same thought...the quick
Then at 7:32pm MST he posts his latest response to this thread. Saying I am not sending him one, and that I cant be trusted? Seriously??? 17 Minutes you change from saying thanks and confirming I am sending one to stating I am going back on my word, and cant be trusted? This is getting ridiculous, and it must come to an end NOW.
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Darren i thought the seller offered you one in exchange for the quick shift one.
I will I’ll be sending him one this week.
After answering some questions that Braden ( Owner of Longbridge Mini in Lethbridge Alberta ) had asked
Me via email yesterday ( 5 operation questions ) , I received his opinion today. I should order a quality
KAD quick shifter. Quite a change of tune from March 13 th ( two days ago ) when he wrote the above
message...... judge for yourselves if this company stands behind its word.
Rosebud and all, I agree with your thoughts on the quick shifter. If you must try one, don’t buy a cheap one
like is on my car...buy the best you can find.
Good point Alex and Dan. I think the term “short shift “ is much more accurate than “quick shift “. After the
grief I’ve been experiencing, I would suggest to stay with the factory shifter, unless you willing to risk
a significant chance of grief at the end of the project.
Since I haven’t been able to find an original shifter, and Braden has changed his mind about “ sending me one
this week “ , I guess I’ve got to cough up for a KAD unit.
Derwood.
Darren,
You completely misread my email.
1. Your car HAS a quickshifter in it. You need a factory shifter.
2. You sent pictures of items from Seven parts showing rod change and remote change parts asking what you need... so I told you. I even stated I will be sending you the shifter and roll pin.
3. I never changed my mind about sending you one nor did I make such a statement... I will send you one. We spoke about this in a previous email. Its in one of my cars, so I have to remove it. Its only Thursday... please be patient.
Here is the email I sent Darren Yesterday. He is in bold and my responses are red.
"Hi Darren,
Its very difficult to respond to all these emails please try to limit everything to one email or 2 if possible.
engine running or not running, it takes way too much force. Even when in
neutral , engine stopped ,just trying to “ slop “ the lever from side to side
takes a lot of effort.
Of course I’m not a mechanic, but it seems unlikely to me that this
friction occurs everywhere in the gearbox. It seems to point to the
gear lever, or the box below it, that the lever sits inside. What it feels like
to me is that there is no grease in other the large “cup” socket, or the small ball and it’s socket. My honest guess is that the friction is coming
from the large “ ball and socket “ of the lever/rod change box.
Hope this helps Braden. I have ordered two of the “ bobbin “ mounts on
a hunch that the rod selector box mount is weak. Does this joint/cup that
is the fulcrum of the lever normally have grease in it, and how is more added ( if necessary ).
I received the cheque today....thank you !
Thanks Braden, I’d like to know what you think.
although rock solid looking, is VERY LOAD. Loader than I think you would
leave it. So, I’m starting to think that the front header pieces are loose
( see pictures...they are so close together they need special clamps but
still look like they could be loose ) from the rear pipe and muffler, and when in the transport truck a heavy bump jolted the front header parts
a bit away from the rear pipe/muffler, and that this may have bumped into
the rod change box, putting sideways stress on the rod that enters the bear box. What do you think of this notion ? Unfortunately, I haven’t had
a chance to jack the car up and get underneath for a look yet.
Food for though ?
Its quite possible, the car had a sporty tune however it wasn't stupid loud. Very possible it got hit during shipping or moved around. It did take 3 weeks and 4000kms between when it left me to when you received it.. From pictures I have seen and between your comments and the other Mini owner who shipped with James I am not impressed with his service... very mickey mouse in my opinion. I will NOT be using his company again.
that are side-by-side ) look like the could be loose enough to cause the
Rear exhaust to shift up against the rod change box. Take a look, please.
Thanks,
Darren
posts and tell me what you think ? Do you think this could be the problem ?
If so, could you tell me how to fix it, or would it need an old shifter and its bits ?
Does the lever come out inside of the car, or from underneath ?
Thanks,
Darren.
Hello Braden. I’m beginning to realize that quite a few people have had trouble with the quick shifters. Could you find a photo of the same kit
( with all parts ) and send it to me so I know what to look for.
A further problem is that I can’t find a new setup ( all the pieces that
were removed ) anywhere....
Is there a screw on cap socket that goes onto the lever and then down
to the box from INSIDE the Mini ?
Thanks Braden.
Darren. I want to fix this asap. Do you have these parts ? Otherwise this is
About 230$ US on my credit card. I need to move soon , because we are
near driving season. Thanks Braden. Please let me know you plans. Are these
all the pieces I will need Braden ? Thanks. I want to do something tomorrow...
gotta get rolling on this as shipping will take a while. Please share your thoughts
Braden. Thanks pal,
Darren.
Regards
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Darren i thought the seller offered you one in exchange for the quick shift one.
I will I’ll be sending him one this week.
After answering some questions that Braden ( Owner of Longbridge Mini in Lethbridge Alberta ) had asked
Me via email yesterday ( 5 operation questions ) , I received his opinion today. I should order a quality
KAD quick shifter. Quite a change of tune from March 13 th ( two days ago ) when he wrote the above
message...... judge for yourselves if this company stands behind its word.
Rosebud and all, I agree with your thoughts on the quick shifter. If you must try one, don’t buy a cheap one
like is on my car...buy the best you can find.
Good point Alex and Dan. I think the term “short shift “ is much more accurate than “quick shift “. After the
grief I’ve been experiencing, I would suggest to stay with the factory shifter, unless you willing to risk
a significant chance of grief at the end of the project.
Since I haven’t been able to find an original shifter, and Braden has changed his mind about “ sending me one
this week “ , I guess I’ve got to cough up for a KAD unit.
Derwood.
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I’ve never seen the point of a "quick shift" unless the quick bit is referring to the life expectancy of your gearbox.
They also increase effort, giving a tighter, less vague feel. I shift slow and deliberately and give my synchros a break whenever possible. But I prefer the tighter and firmer H-pattern they provide… when they’re working correctly.
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I've never seen the point of a "quick shift" unless the quick bit is referring to the life expectancy of your gearbox.
You can move you hand faster then the synchros work with a normal gearlever setup - speed of change is restricted by the gearbox not the lever...
Now, if you have a dogbox installed it's a different story.
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I consider myself lucky, but if I were to purchase a shifter again I would get a KAD unit. I think the advice Derwood has been given is correct. Dump the quick shifter in favor of a stock unit, then work backwards on the entire shift assembly until it all works as expected.
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( with spring, and half-moon pieces etc ) for my rod change transmission. Would anyone have one for sale ?
i would like to buy it. I cannot seen to find this as a new product, but decent one will be fire.
Thanks,
Darren.
email- [email protected].
https://www.minimania.com/part/22A1932/Shift-Lever-Rod-Change---Mini--Mini-Cooper-S
or
https://www.minimania.com/part/U-22A1932/Gearshift-Lever-For-Rod-Change-Transmission
Check with Minmania I'm correct before ordering tho.
Thanks Whee ! That IS what I need. Only one left ....Thanks for comfirming malsal ! What do you think Braden
( LongbridgeMini ) ? ? Because the difficulty to move the shifter is there all the time, in any direction ( up or
down or side to side...1/4 inch to 2 inches....kind of points to this being the issue imho. I’ve read of other having
troubles too. Seems too odd that the entire gearbox would be VERY stiff....
Thanks all....I’ve got the urge to be driving my Mini ! Gotta find or by an old one imho.
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to dive into making the car run as sweet as the car is. Thank you all, expecially you Braden !
That’s, I look forward to getting it,
Best regards
Darren..and ????
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Darren i thought the seller offered you one in exchange for the quick shift one.
I will I’ll be sending him one this week.
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