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 Posted: May 14, 2018 05:17PM
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 Posted: May 14, 2018 04:21PM
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Alright ill look for the date codes tomorrow.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 04:13PM
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the master cylinder is 1979+ the 4 fuse fuse box is 1977+ . Take a picture of the big nuts on the bulk head holding the sub frame to the body between the radiator and the master cylinder.
There should be two flasher units. One for the flashers and one for the 4 ways or hazards...

Keith & Deb

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 Posted: May 14, 2018 04:01PM
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I am not *sure* but that plate is not rear punched and the serial number is a 1976 era number... Chuck??? can you chime in.  Take the door panel off and look at the look assembly. The seller may have filed off the trunk numbers but probably did not go so far as to remove the door panels.. 

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 Posted: May 14, 2018 02:42PM
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Originally Posted by Bullet18
Heres the vin tag.
I am no expert but a German market Mini (unless required when the cabrio conversion was done) would have the original UK vin plate.

If the car was imported here in the early 2000's that would suggest the vin was possibly changed to make the Mini older than it actually is to avoid the 25 year rule.

Most Keith convertibles i have seen have been 80's models so check the two places i suggested for some guidance to the correct year.

If in doubt, flat out . Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 02:20PM
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Well, a British Leyland Vin tag would match a 70's car for sure versus Rover. My expertise in dating Minis stops at around 1969  Some of the others will chime in and give you some things to look for to determine what it really is. Most Minis are "Mr. Potato Head" anyway - do take a look at the date on the wiper motor if you get a chance.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 02:17PM
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Heres the vin tag.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 02:13PM
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Oh boy. That *might* make sense since it was imported from germany in the early 2000s. Its carbureted so i dont think it could be newer than 86 or whenever they put fuel injection on minis as that would mess with the wiring harness.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 01:55PM
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You may have been told it's a 1970 Rover Mini. It may be titled as a 1970 Rover Mini. It, however, is *not* a 1970 Rover Mini.  You don't need to admit this (and probably shouldn't in public because it is illegal). Hopefully it was done to avoid the 25 year rule versus being stolen. Anyway, just call it a 1970, restored to 1986 specs or whatever.

You do however need to know what year it is so you can get the correct wiring diagram and Haynes manual to help you. As others have said, likely mid 80's.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 01:36PM
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 I called the guy who we bought it from and got some more information. It had the engine built in hockenheim germany and it was originally a hardtop but they cut the top off. the guy says the turn signals worked when he put it on the trailer but i dont know about that. Its a 1970 rover mini 1000 but the engine is not at all stock so i dont know if he swapped it.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 12:30PM
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Looks like you have one of Keith's Cabrios. They started life as a sedan and they cut the back half of the top off and part of the front. It still gets its rigidity from the B pillars and the roof sections still being tied to the windshield. Now, as to the lighting issue, my guess is that it's a bad turn signal switch on the column. Or bad wiring at the column. Good luck and let us know what you find.

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 Posted: May 14, 2018 12:21PM
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Looks like a newer 1275 A + engine with a HIF 44 carb.
It also looks newer than a 1970 you need to establish the exact year to chase the wiring issues and for any other parts you will need down the road. It looks like it may be a mid 80's car.
There are 4 digit date codes on Mini's on the wiper motor and trunk latch they should read something like 18 84 which would be the 18th week of 1984 or if yours is correct the last two digits would be 70.

Let us know what you find out.

If in doubt, flat out . Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 11:55AM
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It's an HIF type SU carb...... likely an HIF44 (1.75") as it's a 1275 engine.....although HIF38 was used on Sprites with 1275

Your car likely isn't a Cooper as there was no Cooper in 1970....although there was a Cooper S until 71

Can you post a SN and Engine #

 

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 Posted: May 14, 2018 11:46AM
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Ok, so the hazard lights work. The turn signal arrows on the dash dont work when i try to indicate either but they work when i rurn the hazards on. Does this narrow it down to a problem with the column or the flasher?

 Posted: May 14, 2018 11:26AM
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Thanks. I just updated my account to show my town. It looks your on the other side of the state unfortunately.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 11:23AM
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Its got an su carburetor which, as far as i know, run on magic.

 Posted: May 14, 2018 11:12AM
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bullet18. my guess this is KEITHs cabrio or LAMM.. as factory did NOT make Rover Cabrio in Black.. or Nightfire RED. BRG and a blue.. does this car have carbs or SPI/MPI?/ later bc

 Posted: May 14, 2018 10:58AM
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Also, Welcome! Your will find there is a world of knowledge here on all mini"s. Like you I have had Mustangs for years, and only for the last four years have I owned a 62 mini, also needing plenty of sorting. Knowing the year of the car and drive train type and year is big on getting the correct info online. I am in Farmington MI if that's anywhere near you.

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Thanks for the info. Ill get more pictures up today.  

 Posted: May 14, 2018 10:27AM
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First, welcome aboard.  If possible, please update your profile as much as you are comfortable so people can find you.  There are often local people nearby who will be willing to come by and offer help.

You said your car is a 1970 but there is always the chance that it is some other year of manufacture.  Posting pictures will help members here confirm the year of manufacture.  This will be especially important with your car since it is customized as a convertible.

You will find it invaluable to have a service manual for the car.  Even though your car has been customized, there will still be a lot of applicable data.  Haynes is always a reasonable first manual.  I like having as many manuals as possible.  In the meantime, look at the page linked below which includes links to many early car wiring diagrams.
https://www.minimania.com/Mini___Cooper_Wiring_Diagrams_On_Line

Relative to your current problem, the running and headlights do not pass through the ignition switch so you have a supply problem to sort out there.  Check for supply voltage (heavy brown or brown/red wire) on the main lighting switch.  The turn signals are powered only with the ignition on and therefore a separate issue from your running lights.  If the car also has hazard lights, make sure they work first.  Cycle the hazard switch several times, then check if the turn signals work.  Where there are hazard lights there are two flashers, one for hazards, one for turn signals.  Power for the turn signal circuit flows THROUGH the hazard light switch first.  If there are problems with the hazards lamps the car will often have problems with the turn signals.
  

Doug L.

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