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 Posted: Mar 13, 2019 09:54PM
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I've polarized the generator by touching a wire from the negative/black battery terminal to the smaller connector of the generator.  

Thanks,
Ryan
So is this Positive Earth ?
That's correct, yes

 Posted: Mar 13, 2019 07:44PM
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So have you done some simple checks?  What's the voltage reading at the generator output?  And at the regulator input?  And at the regulator output ? (D on my diagram)  and at the dash light input (brown wire /yellow trace - from voltage regulator)?  and at the battery (across the terminals), and at the dash light input (white wire - the terminal connected the battery- through the ignition switch).

Right at the beginning we found that the battery's not charging... but we don't know why.  Something wrong with the battery?  Something wrong with the generator? Something wrong with the regulator?  ..or wires between a,B or C? 

Time for the multimeter..

Cheers, Ian
Hi Ian,  I'm not seeing a diagram.  Maybe it's the long day and I'm forgetting something in front of me?
Probably not..... my diagram was in front of me...your diagram is in your workshop manual..Don’t have one???  I’m starting to see the problem.

Cheers, Ian

 Posted: Mar 13, 2019 12:03PM
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Originally Posted by 1963SV2
So have you done some simple checks?  What's the voltage reading at the generator output?  And at the regulator input?  And at the regulator output ? (D on my diagram)  and at the dash light input (brown wire /yellow trace - from voltage regulator)?  and at the battery (across the terminals), and at the dash light input (white wire - the terminal connected the battery- through the ignition switch).

Right at the beginning we found that the battery's not charging... but we don't know why.  Something wrong with the battery?  Something wrong with the generator? Something wrong with the regulator?  ..or wires between a,B or C? 

Time for the multimeter..

Cheers, Ian
Hi Ian,

I'll get to it tonight for these readings.  Could you point me towards any YouTube tutorials you know & like?  For someone new all of this, these videos have been real helpful.

Thanks,
Ryan
Just a long shot here and maybe this has been covered. Did you install the battery backwards (reverse polarity) at any time, if so that may cause a generator light and a no charging situation.
I am assuming your 1962 Mini if original would have been positive earth/ground.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Mar 13, 2019 12:01PM
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Originally Posted by Ryannnnnnnnn
I've polarized the generator by touching a wire from the negative/black battery terminal to the smaller connector of the generator. 
Thanks,
Ryan
So is this Positive Earth ?
Good Question!

 
Originally Posted by Ryannnnnnnnn
Hi All,

I bought my '62 Morris Mini a little over a year.  I've got my 1st electrical issue, and this is the 1st time I've fixed a car on my own (I'm very new to this and ready to LEARN).

Here's the problem:........

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"Hang on a minute lads....I've got a great idea."

 Posted: Mar 13, 2019 08:21AM
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I've polarized the generator by touching a wire from the negative/black battery terminal to the smaller connector of the generator.  

Thanks,
Ryan
So is this Positive Earth ?

 

"Everybody should own a MINI at some point, or you are incomplete as a human being" - James May

"WET COOPER", Partsguy1 (Terry Snell of Penticton BC ) - Could you send the money for the unpaid parts and court fees.
Ordered so by a Judge

 

 

 

 Posted: Mar 13, 2019 05:26AM
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Yes, 240 grit sandpaper on the inside parts.  Toner and 240 grit paper on the outside terminals.

And thanks for the polarization answer, Doug.
This comes too late but I would NOT have cleaned the inside contacts with wet/dry paper.  They are/were new and only coated with a product like Cosmoline.  Cleaning with acetone or lacquer thinner would have been a better choice.

For peace of mind, I suggest taking the generator to an electrical shop and have it bench tested.

Doug L.
 Posted: Mar 12, 2019 05:52PM
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Originally Posted by 1963SV2
So have you done some simple checks?  What's the voltage reading at the generator output?  And at the regulator input?  And at the regulator output ? (D on my diagram)  and at the dash light input (brown wire /yellow trace - from voltage regulator)?  and at the battery (across the terminals), and at the dash light input (white wire - the terminal connected the battery- through the ignition switch).

Right at the beginning we found that the battery's not charging... but we don't know why.  Something wrong with the battery?  Something wrong with the generator? Something wrong with the regulator?  ..or wires between a,B or C? 

Time for the multimeter..

Cheers, Ian
Hi Ian,  I'm not seeing a diagram.  Maybe it's the long day and I'm forgetting something in front of me?

 Posted: Mar 12, 2019 05:47PM
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So have you done some simple checks?  What's the voltage reading at the generator output?  And at the regulator input?  And at the regulator output ? (D on my diagram)  and at the dash light input (brown wire /yellow trace - from voltage regulator)?  and at the battery (across the terminals), and at the dash light input (white wire - the terminal connected the battery- through the ignition switch).

Right at the beginning we found that the battery's not charging... but we don't know why.  Something wrong with the battery?  Something wrong with the generator? Something wrong with the regulator?  ..or wires between a,B or C? 

Time for the multimeter..

Cheers, Ian
Hi Ian,

I'll get to it tonight for these readings.  Could you point me towards any YouTube tutorials you know & like?  For someone new all of this, these videos have been real helpful.

Thanks,
Ryan

 Posted: Mar 12, 2019 05:45PM
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Have you cleaned the contacts INSIDE the voltage regulator yet?  
Yes, 240 grit sandpaper on the inside parts.  Toner and 240 grit paper on the outside terminals.

And thanks for the polarization answer, Doug.

 Posted: Mar 12, 2019 08:56AM
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Doug i just noticed the 3rd post down says he has cleaned the contact posts inside and out.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

 Posted: Mar 12, 2019 04:46AM
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When you polarize a part, does it always stay polarized? Or do you have to re-polarize when the battery is disconnected?

Once polarized the generator will stay polarized even with the battery disconnected.

Have you cleaned the contacts INSIDE the voltage regulator yet?  I have not seen a post that says you have taken that step.  Just so we are clear here, if the coating is on the contacts they are insulated.  When coated/insulated the contacts will not pass current when they are supposed to... so the voltage regulator will not work (i.e. the red light will stay on).  Save your other checks and efforts until after you have cleaned the regulator contacts.

Doug L.
 Posted: Mar 12, 2019 02:32AM
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So have you done some simple checks?  What's the voltage reading at the generator output?  And at the regulator input?  And at the regulator output ? (D on my diagram)  and at the dash light input (brown wire /yellow trace - from voltage regulator)?  and at the battery (across the terminals), and at the dash light input (white wire - the terminal connected the battery- through the ignition switch).

Right at the beginning we found that the battery's not charging... but we don't know why.  Something wrong with the battery?  Something wrong with the generator? Something wrong with the regulator?  ..or wires between a,B or C? 

Time for the multimeter..

Cheers, Ian

 Posted: Mar 11, 2019 08:47PM
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Did you check to connections on the starter switch are clean? The battery charges back thru one side of it. The side with two wires.
I just took a little sand paper to it.  Light corrosion, but nothing too bad.  Cleaned it off, started it up, and I'm still getting the red IGN light.

 Posted: Mar 11, 2019 08:20PM
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Not the battery's fault.
Previous owner installed a heater using speaker wire.  No problem using that, but the insulation wore down where they punched a hole in the body to pass the wire through, and it grounded.  I imagine that caused it to drain fast.

No worries though, the battery was under warranty; I fixed the wiring, and this won't happen to the new battery since I've got a trickle charger on it!

Thanks for the salt build-up info.. you guys are teaching me a LOT!

 Posted: Mar 11, 2019 07:02PM
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My Interstate battery (~10 months old) was bad. 
If your 10 month old battery was sufficiently discharged (or uncharged) for any reason, then the battery becomes "salted" . Not the battery's fault.

This means that it has been killed. Sometimes it can be resurrected if not in this state too long (hours or one day), but any longer than that then it is usually kaput.

Another variant of this is if your battery is dead in your stopped car.  You use jumper cables from a fresh battery/running car and would expect to be able to instantly crank your stopped car.  Nope. If the stopped car battery is partially salted, you may need to run the running car and deliver electricity through the cables to the salted battery of the stopped car. Sometimes, if lucky, that takes a few minutes. Sometime never. Depend on degree of damage.

If you removed the battery cables from their attachment on the stopped car and connected the jumper cables from the running car directly to the stopped car cables, therefore bypassing the dead/salted battery, you obviously would not see this happen. It would crank right up.

None of this helps your charging issue. Do you have a persistent "leak" ?.
I have an infrequently used  VW that has a small leak that will slowly drain the battery over 7-10 days. I cannot find it although I know what circuit it is on. I put in one of those battery quick disconnect devices (the knife blade type) and just disconnect the battery when not in use..


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Did you check to connections on the starter switch are clean? The battery charges back thru one side of it. The side with two wires.

"How can anything bigger be mini?"

 Posted: Mar 11, 2019 05:44PM
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Side question:

When you polarize a part, does it always stay polarized? Or do you have to re-polarize when the battery is disconnected?

Thanks!

 Posted: Mar 11, 2019 05:42PM
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My Interstate battery (~10 months old) was bad.  I just swapped it out for its replacement.

I've cleaned the contacts on the inside and the outside of the new voltage regulator.  Zero corrosion, and no chance of any residue still.

I've polarized the generator by touching a wire from the negative/black battery terminal to the smaller connector of the generator.  Polarized the regulator by touching the rightmost connector ("E", with the largest coil of wires) to negative/black, just like the YouTube tractor video shows.

It still won't charge.  I'm stuck for clues.

I even tried the old regulator, cleaning it like new, inside and out, and it's not helping either.

Thanks,
Ryan

 Posted: Mar 4, 2019 10:43AM
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Did you clean the contacts INSIDE the voltage regulator? 
Well I've got my task for the evening.

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As Dan said... clean the INSIDE contacts.  We are not talking about the wire terminals.  Hopefully that will resolve your car's charging problem and the red light will go out.

Doug L.

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