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 Posted: Sep 24, 2014 06:50AM
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Can somebody PLEASE post a picture of a "double drip rail" in place on a car? Most of us don't know what the heck you're jabbering on about. (Not that it matteres to Kermit.) Sxman's pic only shows a piece of tin that could be pop-riveted, screwed or welded antwhere on a Mini.

Thanks

 

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 Posted: Sep 24, 2014 06:40AM
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Originally Posted by malsal
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I thought the "double" extended drip rail was dropped in the mid 70's.

It was.....as mentioned further up  ;-)

 

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 Posted: Sep 23, 2014 02:51PM
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Originally Posted by smurf

ALL minis after May 1960 have the double drip rail

Cooper S 1071 started in March 1963

Your shell with FE#in the 280k range is a 1962 shell

In 1962 a car with the chrome window trim would be either Cooper 997 or Super unless the doors/trim was added then it would be just an 850

Dry suspension Cooper/S cars have a different seat crossmember than 850 cars too so if you can provide pictures of the crossmember around the shifter hole we can narrow it down even more.

real answer: Not a Cooper S shell as it's too early

 

I thought the "double" extended drip rail was dropped in the mid 70's.

Sorry should read mk1 mini

 Posted: Sep 23, 2014 02:25PM
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Originally Posted by smurf

ALL minis after May 1960 have the double drip rail

Cooper S 1071 started in March 1963

Your shell with FE#in the 280k range is a 1962 shell

In 1962 a car with the chrome window trim would be either Cooper 997 or Super unless the doors/trim was added then it would be just an 850

Dry suspension Cooper/S cars have a different seat crossmember than 850 cars too so if you can provide pictures of the crossmember around the shifter hole we can narrow it down even more.

real answer: Not a Cooper S shell as it's too early

 

I thought the "double" extended drip rail was dropped in the mid 70's.

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 Posted: Sep 23, 2014 11:16AM
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ALL minis after May 1960 have the double drip rail

Cooper S 1071 started in March 1963

Your shell with FE#in the 280k range is a 1962 shell

In 1962 a car with the chrome window trim would be either Cooper 997 or Super unless the doors/trim was added then it would be just an 850

Dry suspension Cooper/S cars have a different seat crossmember than 850 cars too so if you can provide pictures of the crossmember around the shifter hole we can narrow it down even more.

real answer: Not a Cooper S shell as it's too early

 

 Posted: Sep 23, 2014 10:36AM
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What is an S ?

Apart from all the right parts on an S shell ......

Is it a collection of the right parts in the wrong shell, but with S paperwork  ?

Or an S shell with a lot of non-S parts in it Cry

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 Posted: Sep 23, 2014 04:43AM
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Hang on Kerm, it really don't matter seems like old guy asking a question is likely to be told he is stupid or just wrong. I looked at a life time race car that I know is an S but there are no signs of it any longer. Title and log books agree but it has been updated so many times I can't tell. Had a few cars myself over the years. Steve (CTR)

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 04:51PM
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Originally Posted by Kermit Wold

OK, I'm stupic.  Lay it on me... 

I've owned minis on and off for almost 50 years but I don't give a hoot about this or that is correct or whatever.  My family has probably had 50 British cars over the years starting in the early 60's.  I am not nor do I care to be a historian,  I just want to find out what I can about this car.  Got a detail wrong, don't care.  Don't know the size of seat bolts on a this or that year, don't care.  

Somebody needs a hug..........

 

I might listen a little too closely or be anal. I was confused and wanted clarification , that's all.

Please carry on.

PS , by no means do I think you're stupid, I was the one misunderstanding . Steve's right, just some old guys asking questions.

Is it possible to see some pictures of the car Kermit ?

SxS 

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 04:37PM
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Lol...

Sounds like an S then...post pictures

 

"Everybody should own a MINI at some point, or you are incomplete as a human being" - James May

"WET COOPER", Partsguy1 (Terry Snell of Penticton BC ) - Could you send the money for the unpaid parts and court fees.
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 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 03:21PM
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OK, I'm stupic.  Lay it on me... 

I've owned minis on and off for almost 50 years but I don't give a hoot about this or that is correct or whatever.  My family has probably had 50 British cars over the years starting in the early 60's.  I am not nor do I care to be a historian,  I just want to find out what I can about this car.  Got a detail wrong, don't care.  Don't know the size of seat bolts on a this or that year, don't care.  

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 08:19AM
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"All mini's have a drip rail going around the base of the roof.  The 850's and some of the 998's had this configuration only.  Later when the Cooper came out there was an additional spot welded rail pointing downward from the drip rail along the sides of the roof.  This became standard later on.  When we look at early cars we always look to see if there is the rail as to at least identify the car as something more than an 850."

Not correct at all....

 

"Everybody should own a MINI at some point, or you are incomplete as a human being" - James May

"WET COOPER", Partsguy1 (Terry Snell of Penticton BC ) - Could you send the money for the unpaid parts and court fees.
Ordered so by a Judge

 

 

 

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 07:44AM
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The 59 and 60 cars had no drip rail, I was picturing //www.minimania.com/part/14A8462/Drip-Rail-Roof-Left-Or-Right-_-Mini--Mini-Cooper , all minis ( other than de-seamed ) had roof gutters. Just was thrown by "double".

(aftermarket drip rail)

 

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 07:33AM
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All mini's have a drip rail going around the base of the roof.  The 850's and some of the 998's had this configuration only.  Later when the Cooper came out there was an additional spot welded rail pointing downward from the drip rail along the sides of the roof.  This became standard later on.  When we look at early cars we always look to see if there is the rail as to at least identify the car as something more than an 850. 

As far as the fuel tanks.  I mis-spoke.  There are two factory fuel tank holes.  The trunk is pretty well messed up as there was a fuel cell in there at one time and the brackets are long gone.  The car is an older race car that is fairly unmolested i.e. no rust, straight body.  I find it a bit unusual that someone would go through the trouble of putting on a S trunk and hood for a race car.  I sure as hell wouldn't.  

Kerm

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 06:19AM
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Originally Posted by Spitz

I'm guessing he meant the added drip rail on the sides used from about 1960 ( or late 59? ) to 1976


The ones that were welded or some were riveted on ? I guess the "double" part threw me.

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 06:12AM
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I'm guessing he meant the added drip rail on the sides used from about 1960 ( or late 59? ) to 1976

 

"Everybody should own a MINI at some point, or you are incomplete as a human being" - James May

"WET COOPER", Partsguy1 (Terry Snell of Penticton BC ) - Could you send the money for the unpaid parts and court fees.
Ordered so by a Judge

 

 

 

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 06:03AM
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What do you mean by "double drip rail" ? I'm not understanding. Do you have any pictures to share ?

SxS

 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 04:59AM
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That FE dates to around Spring of '62.

Twin tanks and chrome window surrounds suggest Cooper but .... then again it could be a Super.

Does the RH tank & bracketry look like a proper (factory) installation ?

Twin tanks were an optopn on all cars, not just S's.

The first S was Jan '63, so I guess yours was not originally an S.

 

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 Posted: Sep 22, 2014 03:13AM
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We have a car we are trying to id for model.  It is a mark 1,  double drip rail, twin tank, chrome around door windows, trunk and hood have s emblems, no serial # on floor or on top of the surround but a FE281004 plate near radiator on vertical panel.  We can't find any other id.  I know the FE # does not follow normal serial number sequence but I thought some one out there might be able to use it as a clue.

Kerm

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