Created by: | Orig. Posting Date | User Name | Edit Date |
| May 2, 2016 05:43AM | Dan Moffet | Edited: May 2, 2016 05:43AM |
| Apr 30, 2016 04:05PM | jeg | |
| Apr 22, 2016 04:35AM | malsal | |
| Apr 21, 2016 06:56AM | Dan Moffet | |
| Apr 21, 2016 04:47AM | malsal | |
| Apr 20, 2016 11:21PM | Alex | |
| Apr 20, 2016 08:16PM | Spank | |
| Apr 20, 2016 06:44PM | Shrimps | |
| Apr 20, 2016 02:43PM | marvalussbody | |
| Apr 20, 2016 11:33AM | minimans | |
| Apr 20, 2016 11:01AM | Dan Moffet | |
| Apr 20, 2016 10:34AM | minimans | |
| Apr 20, 2016 04:17AM | malsal | |
| Apr 19, 2016 10:13PM | Alex | |
| Apr 19, 2016 03:00PM | jeg | Edited: Apr 19, 2016 03:35PM |
| Apr 19, 2016 02:24PM | MustangMechanic1971 | |
| Apr 19, 2016 02:12PM | MustangMechanic1971 | |
| Apr 19, 2016 11:40AM | jeg | |
| Apr 19, 2016 10:57AM | Alex | |
| Apr 19, 2016 05:51AM | jedduh01 | Edited: Apr 19, 2016 06:58AM |
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Chances are it didn't run very long without oil pressure.
My guess is that he has done what he can (more than the original bargain with the owner) and has wrapped the project up and given it back to the owner, and gone back to Mustangs.
My guess is that he has done what he can (more than the original bargain with the owner) and has wrapped the project up and given it back to the owner, and gone back to Mustangs.
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I wonder how this worked out in the end.
Sure would be nice to hear conclusions once in a while...
Sure would be nice to hear conclusions once in a while...
The peasants are revolting... 
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Originally Posted by Dan Moffet
malsal: no worries!
But your first time, how long did it take you, and did you start the engine in or out? Out is quicker, and you have the benefit of seeing how it goes together as you take it apart.
My first time doing a lump swap, took me 2 weekends, working outdoors (no shade!) with a chain hoist hung from a wooden framework. Of course there were complications - the 850 was a magic wand lump and the 1100 a cast remote type. Didn't quite get it done the first weekend.
But your first time, how long did it take you, and did you start the engine in or out? Out is quicker, and you have the benefit of seeing how it goes together as you take it apart.
My first time doing a lump swap, took me 2 weekends, working outdoors (no shade!) with a chain hoist hung from a wooden framework. Of course there were complications - the 850 was a magic wand lump and the 1100 a cast remote type. Didn't quite get it done the first weekend.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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malsal: no worries!
But your first time, how long did it take you, and did you start the engine in or out? Out is quicker, and you have the benefit of seeing how it goes together as you take it apart.
My first time doing a lump swap, took me 2 weekends, working outdoors (no shade!) with a chain hoist hung from a wooden framework. Of course there were complications - the 850 was a magic wand lump and the 1100 a cast remote type. Didn't quite get it done the first weekend.
But your first time, how long did it take you, and did you start the engine in or out? Out is quicker, and you have the benefit of seeing how it goes together as you take it apart.
My first time doing a lump swap, took me 2 weekends, working outdoors (no shade!) with a chain hoist hung from a wooden framework. Of course there were complications - the 850 was a magic wand lump and the 1100 a cast remote type. Didn't quite get it done the first weekend.
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Originally Posted by malsal
. BTW i don't know what you ran into difficulty wise but 9 hours to fit an 850 engine in a Mini is ridiculous.
Mustang was learning as he went and probably managed to do most things the "hard" way, meaning he had to back up and try a different approach. Maybe things like not setting the lump all the way down until you have aligned the rubber cross U-joints, putting the rad and hoses on before installing the engine, finding out it is easier to have the engine on a tilt to slide it down onto the subframe.
The "ran when parked gambit":
Mustang: Did the car come with the engine in it, or was it a collection to be put back together?
I agree with the advice to button it up and give it back to the owner and cut your pain and losses. You gave it your best shot, it took far more work than expected, and has proven to be a non-runner.
BTW not ragging on you your posts are informative and to the point.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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I haven't made one yet, but the shiny new engine in the video is destined to go into Tubbs - maybe if I prime the pump on film it will provide the impetus to get round to changing it...
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Alex, I'm oh so glad that I'm not the only one with a garage that looks like that!
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Originally Posted by marvalussbody
Alex.....is there actually a video demonstration of priming the pump?
Its something i have never personally done and I would certainly appreciate watching a video like that.
cheers,
Bill
Its something i have never personally done and I would certainly appreciate watching a video like that.
cheers,
Bill
I too would like to see the process.
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Alex.....is there actually a video demonstration of priming the pump?
Its something i have never personally done and I would certainly appreciate watching a video like that.
cheers,
Bill
Its something i have never personally done and I would certainly appreciate watching a video like that.
cheers,
Bill
when she said "its so small" she meant the car right?
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Shade tree mechanics is one thing but when you offer your services to "Restore" somebody else's car maybe it would help to have at least a working knowledge of the vehicle in hand? I hope this guy is very understanding of your problems with the car or you could find yourself in all sorts of problems.......................................
Mini's are like buses they come along in a bunch
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Originally Posted by malsal
. BTW i don't know what you ran into difficulty wise but 9 hours to fit an 850 engine in a Mini is ridiculous.
Mustang was learning as he went and probably managed to do most things the "hard" way, meaning he had to back up and try a different approach. Maybe things like not setting the lump all the way down until you have aligned the rubber cross U-joints, putting the rad and hoses on before installing the engine, finding out it is easier to have the engine on a tilt to slide it down onto the subframe.
The "ran when parked gambit":
Mustang: Did the car come with the engine in it, or was it a collection to be put back together?
I agree with the advice to button it up and give it back to the owner and cut your pain and losses. You gave it your best shot, it took far more work than expected, and has proven to be a non-runner.
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Originally Posted by malsal
Did the owner quote "it drove when it was parked" or the previous owner ? Look either you don't get it or there is something wrong internally either way it is not going to get oil pressure with you wrenching on it in your Mom's garage. Give the owner the car back as suggested and tell him to take it to a competent Mini mechanic to get the car running for him. BTW i don't know what you ran into difficulty wise but 9 hours to fit an 850 engine in a Mini is ridiculous.
Mini's are like buses they come along in a bunch
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Did the owner quote "it drove when it was parked" or the previous owner ? Look either you don't get it or there is something wrong internally either way it is not going to get oil pressure with you wrenching on it in your Mom's garage. Give the owner the car back as suggested and tell him to take it to a competent Mini mechanic to get the car running for him. BTW i don't know what you ran into difficulty wise but 9 hours to fit an 850 engine in a Mini is ridiculous.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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Did you watch the video ?
Do you now understand the oil flow ?
Do you need a simple demonstration of priming the oil pump...
Do you now understand the oil flow ?
Do you need a simple demonstration of priming the oil pump...
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No doubt that you've spent a bit of time on the car, but you might have saved some money by using a wiring harness from AutoSparks - around $275.- complete with the correct color wiring and to the correct spec to the car. They also do special harnesses for added lamps and accessories.
It doesn't get much better than this - //www.autosparks.co.uk/finder
Edit: Yeah, I get a bit irked by foul language (conjures images someone of throwing wrenches when frustrated ) and your liberal use of the word 'restoration'. A 'rebuild', yes, but definately not a restoration.
Personally, I'd give it back to the owner 'as is' and say something to the effect of 'Dude, you don't have any more money, and it'll take a bit more to get it running'. If, as you say, the car is better than it was when you received it, then the owner should be appreciative.
Maybe try contacting the local club and ask if someone can pop over to give you a hand with it. Most enthusiastic mini owners know these cars pretty well, and don't mind wrenching on others for the price of a pizza and an ice cream cone...
It doesn't get much better than this - //www.autosparks.co.uk/finder
Edit: Yeah, I get a bit irked by foul language (conjures images someone of throwing wrenches when frustrated ) and your liberal use of the word 'restoration'. A 'rebuild', yes, but definately not a restoration.
Personally, I'd give it back to the owner 'as is' and say something to the effect of 'Dude, you don't have any more money, and it'll take a bit more to get it running'. If, as you say, the car is better than it was when you received it, then the owner should be appreciative.
Maybe try contacting the local club and ask if someone can pop over to give you a hand with it. Most enthusiastic mini owners know these cars pretty well, and don't mind wrenching on others for the price of a pizza and an ice cream cone...
The peasants are revolting...
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And I think $3800 for a complete restoration is pretty a goddamn big favor to begin with. I mean I built a new harness for this, converted the entire suspension, dashboard, brake system, cleaned and painted everything, all new lighting, glass, EVERYTHING.
I was just told it had all its parts, it drove when it was parked, I would just need to put it together again. What a nightmare it turned out to be.
I was just told it had all its parts, it drove when it was parked, I would just need to put it together again. What a nightmare it turned out to be.
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Hey guys! I don't have a lift! This took like 9 hours to get in! I have school, work, tech school, side work, and I have to move out soon! I'm doing this out of my moms garage! This car wasn't supposed to take half this long. I can't pull this out right now, I don't even have the engine jack anymore.
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Originally Posted by MustangMechanic1971
Still no oil or air flow coming out of the banjo hole. We thought a high rev might have been able to unclog something, so we hooked up a chrysler oil pump in a bucket of oil and pumped it thu the filter side and hooked up a gauge, kept engine at 60-75 psi while we had it running. Got engine to idle and up to 3k before battery died. Still Nothing. We can't even feel Air coming out? Am I supposed to?
And if if you don't know the whole story;
YES I TRIED PRIMING IT
YES IM SURE I DID IT CORRECTLY!
YES I AM SURE IM SURE!
ITS A 66 850 ENGINE- RAN 3 YEARS AGO AND PARKED. WHAT CAN GO WRONG IN THAT LITTLE AMOUNT OF TIME IN AZ? I even let acetone sit in there to try to disolve whatever is down in there. I tried Vacuuming, Pressurizing, rolling back and pressuring, EVERYTHING. Pumping oil in, everything. Does ANYONE have a diagram of the galleries to the pump. Not that cutaway, an actual diagram.
And if if you don't know the whole story;
YES I TRIED PRIMING IT
YES IM SURE I DID IT CORRECTLY!
YES I AM SURE IM SURE!
ITS A 66 850 ENGINE- RAN 3 YEARS AGO AND PARKED. WHAT CAN GO WRONG IN THAT LITTLE AMOUNT OF TIME IN AZ? I even let acetone sit in there to try to disolve whatever is down in there. I tried Vacuuming, Pressurizing, rolling back and pressuring, EVERYTHING. Pumping oil in, everything. Does ANYONE have a diagram of the galleries to the pump. Not that cutaway, an actual diagram.
You said that the owner doesn't have any more money for 'extensive repairs' or pulling/breaking the engine for a better look-see.
Have you thought about simply doing the guy a favor?
The peasants are revolting...
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Originally Posted by minimans
you must be a real glutton for punishment! Pull the damn thing out and take a look, it will take maybe 2hrs to pull it out and strip the side case to get to the oil pump, and then you can determine whats actually wrong with it instead of guessing and wasting anymore time on this. How many wasted hours have you got into F**king around with it?
Worked on a 68ish Masarati Mistral once - Customer purchased at Auction --- Only had about 30 Lbs of oil pressure when you revved the S**T out of it... Convinced customer that this wasnt' good and agreed to 'look into the motor for the issue.
Tore it down - found balled up stuck up Shop rag stuck to oil pickup. Causing lack of oil flow - Probably rag was injested from an earlier in life timing service. Luckily no Major bearing damage - Did replace some bearings but not all. - ( Masarati Bearings are sold as HALF shells and reccomeneded replacement as required. and VERY expensive for each Half shell!
Time to Dig into it.
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