Steering wheel shifts,sloppy column?
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The problem with 12s is that they don't seem (not seen anything advertised and certainly nothing available Down Here) to make a good "performance" tyre in 12"...
If a set of 10x6s with Ao32s don't float your boat then I would be looking at a set of 13s in whatever width the tyre makers recommend - again with as small an offset as is available...
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If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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Malsal i really appreciate the responses from you as well as everyone also.
The car has the wide 10x7 crazy offset wheels.Im curious and want to change back to the factory 10x5 minilites to see how it drives with them.Im sure way better for normal driving.Im not too much concerned with locking the wheel and turning crazy turns but id like a other set of wheels ..12" and not sure of width and offset really.The -7 offset is what minitec calls for due to steering but also the more negative offset the worst it handles it seems?? Also it seems to torwue steer a little more..whats a good happy medium do you think for normal driving and a higher HP car.This car will be pushing 200-220 whp in no time at this rate with some bigger injectors and more boost lol
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Now you know how it should feel you will know if it starts to get sloppy eNJoy.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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Just got in ,long night..the verdict...
Column/pinchbolt-splines are good and pinchbolt was LOOSE Checked the 4 bolts on the floor,they werent falling out or Wiggling but yes they were slightly loose and all 4 needed a good tightening! Took it for a ride and boy does it feel WAY BETTER!!!
Thank you guys soo much!!! I really apprecuate it.I dont get much time i work long hours so its nice having pointers and some people with knowledge so i can come home and just get stuff done.
ALSO,it actually helped with the stability/torque steer some.Now i can run a little more boost soon! Lol
Also JAMAL i really appreciate your response,and ive talked to you calling and asking about brakes and rebuilding my master cylinder before and also way back when i had the 1275 with tons of clutch issues.Greatly appreciate everything !
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Not sure how those wheels look..Im not quite in the market now for wheels again.
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I have a set of 12 inch by ? SSR 3 piece wheels which look like the alleycats if you are interested.
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Jemal,i really appreciate that response..
There is a small area where there are no splines and seems its where the pinch bolt should go.The rack shaft itself has the groove all the way around that you explained and it and seems the pinch bolt is supposed to lock into there.That being said with those factors and the rack not being able to pull out i dont get how you could lose steering.The steering column would have to pull out 1 inch probably and can not because of the rack being mounted.
The bolt itself was in fact lose on the column slightly and actually i could pull on the wheel hard in and out and feel it (wiggle) in that groove im guessing slightly.I will have a look at those rack U bolts tonight and see,it slipped my mind lastnight as i was cursing at the car as i was working on it and cursing to myself for wanting such a small car...
A short drive later with the turbo spooling i remembered why lol
P.s car has 10x7 Cart wheels with 165 falkens..i know you guys are against it!
I also had the 10x5 minilites
And i want a set of 12s....i think the 12x6 minilites are such a perfect fit for a larger wheel and 13s are just too big..i do like the alleycats though..wish they made them in 12x6 or 12x7..i thought i did see them in 12s once somewhere before years back but i cant find any info on if they were made before at one point that size
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The most common reason for failure is the installation of a column-drop bracket WITHOUT properly aligning the rack itself to the column. This forces the pinch-bolt to operate through a bind during EVERY rotation of the steering wheel. The stub-shaft on the rack is made of hardened steel and will destroy the splines inside the pinch bolt. As soon as there is any play, particularly with big wheels and horsepower, you are risking your life and others' by driving the car!
Also the stock column uses FELT and Plastic bushings to support the shaft doing all the actual work. Keep in mind all these parts were designed for weedeater power, so you are really pushing their limits even in the best condition with Honda power!
Look carefully at the splines inside the column pinch bolt. They do not necessarily go all around. Perhaps 20% of the ID, the area immediately around the slot that allows the bolt to "pinch" may not have full splines. You should be able to tell with good lighting and perhaps a little magnifying glass if your splines were worn away, or that that area just did not have them. To me it seems unlikely that just a few splines have worn, and that your problem is more likely loose u-bolts mounting the RACK to the floor, or even thrashed subframe mountings from that Honda and those big wheels!
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To explain, where the pinch bolt clamps onto the steering rack shaft it will either have a notch for the bolt to fit into or it will have a groove for the bolt to fit into (on the rack shaft). I prefer the notched type because if it fails you do not loose your steering completely whereas the grooved type could or will do.
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I will check the rack bolts tonight i completely forgot lastnight ..I meant to then fought with the column trying to get the 2 bolts back in that bolt under the lower dash pad .Being 6'4 with the seat still in place it was a hassle ..the metal plate ontop that isnt fixed was being a PITA.do all columns/minis have thst plate just sitting up there lol
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If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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I never rotated anything i lined it up and maked it so it went back in the same way.
The inside threads on the column itself had threads which appeared to go around 3/4 of the inside and there was a smooth 1/4 (fractions might be slightly off) with no threads.It almost looked as if that it was supposed to be that way maybe because if the way the pinch bolt was or something.
So,the insideof the column is supposed to be threaded all the way around??
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Trying to rotate it in an attempt to get some of the remaining splines to hold on might, possibly, delay but why take such a chance? Replace the worn part is the safest option.
Top question: why are the splines so badly worn? If there is play in the system which caused it, then new parts might wear and fail also. By the way, the pinch bolt is not supposed to transfer any load, only hold the splines together so that their large surface area can do so.
Additional check item: is your rack's pinion lined up with the centerline of your column? If it is not, the resulting load can fatigue the pinion and it can break off (same catastrophic result of total loss of steering). Steering column drop brackets, installed without also rotating the rack accordingly, can be a factor in this kind of wear. Test this by loosely fitting the column and then confirm it can be slid up/down the pinion smoothly, without any binding (pinch bolt not installed for this test, of course).
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can i cut the little slice wider to allow it to clamp down more??
also,whats a decent replacement column worth off someone or what should i be looking to pay incase i need one in the near future.Just column ,no wheel etc.
Thanks guys! really appreciate it.I like to reply to things so other people can see,i learned a lot from old threads.
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If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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I just read it online,i parked the car tonight and figured it would be easier if i asked and then came home tomorrow and had a small list of things to check for.I never had the column out or even looked at it actually.I dont have much time when i get done work to play with the car so i want to be prepared lol
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