Using Vintage VIN Tag on Newer Vehicle
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So, the July 1961 VIN tag was screwed to an earlier radiator surround.
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If it's not Scottish....it's crap! (Cry of the Mini Tartan Owners' Clan)
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I think your point was that being in the US the UK rules wouldn't apply, which is also true.
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"he said he purchased a 1966 Mini parts car, removed the VIN tag, and attached it to the '83 Mini, resulting in the '83 being titled here in the U.S. as a 1966"
I guess that doesn't fit the UK points system.
Don't get involved.
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it is meant for registering a restored vehicle
In the case of swapping a vin plate, the required points would not be achieved (because the body, frame, engine, transmission, axles and steering assembly would all be unoriginal to that VIN).
In the case of the factory rally vehicles, they carried road plates but had never been sold to a private person, so their re-shelling fell under a slightly different set of rules. That is, they would have, if these rules had existed at that time.
A repaired rally vehicle is quite a different set of circumstances from a '90s mini with a '60s VIN tag on it.
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No its not... I'm not sure regarding the fine print involving the use of a "New component from the original manufacturer..." (which probably allows for the use of Heritage shells) but that's not what happened here.....
Changing the identity of a pre-existing vehicle has never been legal.... (edit..even if it was a regular process for, among other, a major corporation...) Numerous commentators have identified why they did it.... "to avoid paying the tax involved with the use of a new car.... " Just as illegal back then as now ... but a lot less people were counting
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If you decide to re shell a car in the UK with a shell from a newer, older or brand new shell you can do so and retain your current vehicle registration and vin number as long as you use a certain amount of parts from the original car. There is a points system to this and certain components are worth certain points, when you attain the amount of points you need and complete the build you can get it inspected and you are good to go.
I am sure there are a few hurdles to jump over but that is the basics of it.
A lot of the early rally Mini's were re shelled some more than once.
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That was Classic ! (pun intended)
Very funny.
100% legal here and lovin' it...
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In an attempt to verify such actions, I looked around on the 'net, and found a '79 Mini for sale in Virginia, which appeared to have a 1965 VIN tag.
So, is this a common practice, and most important, is it legal? Seems to me that it's an end run around federalization (steel beams in the doors, reinforced bumpers, etc), but maybe it's perfectly legit.
Also, he wants $10K, which includes a spare 998cc engine (he says there's an 1100 in it now), a spare sub-frame, and a bunch of other misc. spares. Car has around 60K miles.
Thanks for your help. Not sure if this is a good deal or not - aside from the VIN issues, seems a bit high priced to me.
George
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https://classicmini.wordpress.com/2016/01/13/what-car-did-i-just-buy-the-re-vin-game-and-classic-minis/
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Thanks to all who responded with their helpful and insightful posts, which served to reinforce my misgivings about this car's VIN issues.
I'm going to let this one go, and keep looking.
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