The best mini trailer ever.
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I would not suggest you put the fronts on bath scales. As far as loading a trailer I have mine so that I can load frontwards or backwards. When loaded backwards I can lift the tongue and roll the trailer around by hand. Steve (CTR)
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...Will expanded steel hold the weight of the car?...
Although expanded metal comes in a lot of different gauges, the weight of the mini is really minimal especially at the rear wheels. I put the one here on bathroom scales and each rear wheel was only 235 pounds.
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GaryE, I went with it brakes because im going to be close to the tow capacity of my Bini Countryman. As well as the frame is super beafed up and i will be pulling other stuff with it not just the mini. It was $50 more now to do brakes as opposed to $100+ to add them later. Why not right!
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...I opted for the axel with brakes, so that should help...
With such a light weight trailer and car, I can't really imagine that brakes would be needed. A 1,500 pound car is really very little in the larger scheme of things.
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Google waffle boards for ramp suggestions. These are lighter than the alloy ramps and have tons of traction - and are useful for all multitude of situations. And if your tow car gets stuck, you can use them as they were designed (off road recovery)
It's been fun, but this place is done. I have no hatred, and appreciate the good times. But this place now belongs to Tony and his pink mini.
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MALSAL, im only 25 I think I my back can handle a few pounds of a trailer ramp! For now! ahah Though jumping out of planes for the past 8 years and playing army with 100+ pound back packs is sure to catch up to me sooner than later!
Too true and when you get to 56 your back will remember this trust me (just telling my 30 and 29 year old the same thing).
GaryE. I made my 9 foot aluminium ramps slide in on top of the deck in two channels with forklift roller wheels on the front and two clamps that hold them firmly in place with no rattles and which also helps stop the thieves especially being aluminium.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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And this was with 3.5-4 gallons in tank.
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Had planned on re enforcing under where wheels sit so that it has a place to strap down as well. But I will look into the wood.
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Sorry typo 560 REAR Axle.
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Check your math. 940 + 660 = 1600....
Will expanded steel hold the weight of the car? Apitong is a very good hardwood used in truck decks. You would need very little, It comes in 7/8" T&G and takes years to weather.
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Gary I am starting to think the same thing. No worries really if it is over 2000LBS just means after I get this contracting job I want, I but a new SUV! ahah. I opted for the axel with brakes, so that should help. I will not be putting walls up. One elevated rail in the front but no side rails. The deck surface will be expanded steel instead of planks which will save a few hundred pounds i think. This week will tell once i get the axle.
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...Total weight: mine 1500lbs on the nose...
And how about the fuel? Another 45.5 pounds behind the trailer axle?
Yes, I use the calcs. all the time for the proper CG in the Lancair.
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With all the suggestions on here to put on the trailer, it will end up weighing 1,000 pounds.
I have a 6' X 10' all steel, single axle trailer that I built in the '70's with rectangle steel tube, fendered 14" tires, that has been used for everything; snowmobiles, dunebuggies, motorcycles, VW, Mini, experimental airplane (Lancair), and more. The winter weight of the trailer is 738 pounds which includes tire pockets at the front. The 10" X 5.5' wood ramps add another 40 pounds, but I put them in the pickup.
With the Mini loaded, It has 135 pounds of tongue weight and pulls very nicely. The Mini is loaded on in reverse in order to get more room near the fender to open the door, as it is farther forward on the trailer. With the Mini loaded frontwards, it was on the trailer with the rear tires near the back of the trailer with the rear of the Mini hanging out over the back in order to get proper tongue weight. In that position there wasn't much room clearance to open the door to the fender. To hard to get in/out of the car when loading/unloading.
The trailer has stake pockets for 24" high side boards for hauling other items. They are not used when hauling the Mini. The side board stakes are 1" X 1" OD square tube, and even though they are a snug fit in the 1" X 1" ID pockets, they rattle all the time. So, in my opinion, forget the removable side rails. They don't serve much purpose when hauling a car anyway whether they are fixed or removable. Just more weight that is not needed.
Ramps that slide in will be another annoying rattle item unless they can be cinched down tight. Also, if they slide in underneath, there will be limited ground clearance at the rear for driveway/gas station, etc. entry/exits. The ramps or their racks, in some situations will drag.
Depending on trailer deck height, the ramps need to be at least 6' long for Min clearance when loading. At 5.5', my ramps barely make it.
Josh, I believe you will be hard pressed to end up with the trailer under 500 pounds. Keep it simple. Minimal lights: tail/stop/turn, and 4 markers at each corner. Don't need triple markers at the back, or any other fluff. Put some steel protection around the tail lights. Paint it white. Black makes it look like farm equipment. In the end, loaded, you will mostly likely be well over 2,000 pounds.
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MALSAL, im only 25 I think I my back can handle a few pounds of a trailer ramp! For now! ahah Though jumping out of planes for the past 8 years and playing army with 100+ pound back packs is sure to catch up to me sooner than later!
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Mur- Powder coat is a bit out of my budget, and doesnt it weigh a lot?
To be getting wild here. I got the CG of my mini to mount the axel in the perfect spot. If anyone feels like doing it (and seeing how well balanced minis are) heres how you do it. ( I guess the Air Force Air load planner course i had to go to paid off!)
The example is on my mini. The info you need is:
Total weight: mine 1500lbs on the nose
Front axel weight: 940lbs
Distance from front of vehicle (front bumper works) to front axle. (arm or Wheel Base) 21"
Rear axle weight: 560 lbs
ARM or WB to Rear Axle: 101.5 "
Next you take the ARM for each axle X Weight of Axle. (Note* you can do this for more than 2 axles) This gets you "MOMENT".
Front: 21x 940= 19740
Rear: 101.5 x 560= 56840
Then you add the two together to get total MOMENT.
19740 + 56840= 76580 TOTAL MOMENT
Final Formula MOMENT /GROSS WEIGHT = Center of Gravity
86750 (divided by) / 1500 = 51.05 Round down 51" CG!
You then measure from the front again to XX inches and have your CG marked.
HAHA FUN huh? Try doing that for all things loaded onto a transport plane. If that was confusing enough for you this may help.
//www.bendpak.com/support/balancing-safety/
If it works for planes with TANKS in them I think the Mini hauler will be just fine!
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Best ramps. No rubbing when loading on tall trailer.
Yes, but will they fit under the Mini?
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Best ramps. No rubbing when loading on tall trailer.
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I tow my cars on a single axle trailer all the time.
I have never been stopped or had a problem.
It is aluminum.
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I think according to DMV, to tow a vehicle on a trailer it must be dual axle (BY LAW). I know people do it all the time with no problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Each State has its own laws but in Florida you can tow a vehicle on a single axle trailer but i am sure there may be a weight limit which should not be a problem with a Mini.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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I think according to DMV, to tow a vehicle on a trailer it must be dual axle (BY LAW). I know people do it all the time with no problem. Correct me if I'm wrong.