Where are these cars really shining at? Top end? They limit out at a low MPH due to ratios....0-60? No...quarter mile cars? Not at all...

Dont get me wrong i guess they can be kindve fast but like a guy posted on 16vminiclub and he is kindve. Correct that with power to weight they should be a lot faster then they are but therr are factors that come into play.

The cars dont 60' very well...you roll race them against orher cars maybe from a 40mph.

Track and turns and etc i have respect for you guys that do that and use them for what they are but they srent racing machines for normal street/strip is all im saying ...most hondad are quicker eith the same,motors nowadays lol

"Minis are slow even if you put a VTEC on it"  Are you kidding me? 

Have you even driven in a DOHC VTEC?  My VTEC is ANYTHING but slow! 

I've modified sports cars my whole life and none of them came close to my Minis sub 9 to 1 power to weight ratio.

That's sneaking up on C6 numbers.  And my 2L isn't even pumped up like many of the VTEC conversions are.

Think again robster.

34/55 hp is dangerous merging into traffic sometimes...but apparently some people swear by it! Lol STIR.

i like it quick and with enoung torque going uphill, to me thats a perfect mini.

i dont need speed , classic minis are for Showroom , because its really risky to go on high speed without chassis

I have a built single cam honda motor,piston and rod and a healthy turbo that was going to go in a car...we have made high 3s/400whp with the D series motors with a piston rod,cam,intake and fairly small turbo...i had intentions of putting it in my mini just to hear everyone complain its worthless lol i do however have a d16 z6 in mine with a small turbo going on fairly soon.

Interesting info, Norm.

It might also be close to the % error for tire wear, for the 10's and 12's at least.

10" rim 145/80 = 60.1" circumference / 1059 rev/mile

10" rim 165/70 = 60" / 1056

12" rim 165/60 = 62.8" / 1009

13" rim 175/50 = 62.5" / 1014

So, the various choices for a classic mini are all within 5% of each other, revs/mile. This is nearly within the normal % error of a speedometer.

I looked up some random Honda Civic tires

'98 DX

14" rim 185/65 = 73.7" / 859

'07 Si

17" rim 215/45 = 77.3" / 819

They provide a circumference about 20% larger than what the mini uses, in revs/mile, so the final drive, in order to keep the gearing the same, should be shortened by that amount. Or, to put it another way, if you install the front end of a Civic into a mini (but magically keep the mini's transmission and final drive ratio) the gearing has been made ~20% taller, so the engine will need to have more power to feel the same amount of acceleration as what the mini started with. Someone with more time can go through the gear ratios in the Honda units and find out the true result, I was just comparing tires here.

By the way, an overhead cam engine weighs more than our A series engines (ironic, but true), so a VTEC conversion also has more nose weight to lug around. An A series + transmission is something like 285lbs, a Honda D (SOHC) is 309lbs, and the H (DOHC) is 485lbs (!).

Of course, the increase in power from one of those heavy, tall geared Honda front ends is much bigger than either of these other two factors, but the increased nose weight is not insignificant to the handling balance, which is too bad, because it sounds so cool on paper to imagine a 2 or 3x power increase.

Norm

Maybe Robster is gonna put on the "24s" for some extra traction...

the wheel diameter has nothing to do with the gear ratio

the tire's outer diameter does though, and the final drive can be adjusted accordingly

Norm

minis are slow even if you put Vtec on it because the no.1 factor is the wheel size, remember that wheel is a part of the gear ratio that determines the speed of the car.

Harness,ecu,steering wheel,engine,trans,radiator,linkage,etc etc freeeeee

You arent getting out of the hole much on anything unless the other car has a bad driver..atleast for a FWD conversion...id love to do a RWD car next...just for fun

i'll surprise you one day doctor mini...lol.. just wait and see..

Its your car do whatever you want! but indeed the Tec conv is something totally different from a daily driver usage.. Some people go with the flow and like it! others sell it the very next they complete it..  But again i let my grandpa drive my 998 stage 4 conv and he thought its too much fast for him.. its just matter of preference and taste and how fast you think is fast for you... If you drive a porsche carrera as daily driver and swap to a vtec then i guess its just another car.. 

Lol

He's not interested in reality, heck, he's gonna do a VTEC conversion with his welder, a $524 engine and maybe some duct tape.  All this because he can't deal with getting the A series running?  I see disaster ahead and another unfinished project being sold off for half of what he spent.  Oh yeah, that's right, he's only gonna have $524 in it so he may be ok.  Just hope he holds on to the original parts as the future owner might want to put it back to a Mini.  JMHO!

Also if you would like to see conversion part costs check out:

//www.superfastminis.com/ALL%20PRODUCTS.htm

Just the cost of the basic parts can run up pretty fast.

I started out with their MTB2 engine package and had to make many costly upgrades from there to achieve proper handling.

As stated earlier in this string the 16vminiclub threads can give you a good idea of how much work is required to do a VTEC conversion.

That's a V6 vtec. It might fit in the back of a Mini if you cut out the back seat, the firewall and boot floor.

You should watch the "Project Binky" series to see how to properly convert a Mini. (plan on about 5 hours... to watch)