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It was only really noisy when it had air in the pump/lines after installation. Now it only happens for a brief second when I turn the key but instantly quiets when it is primed. This pump is designed to push fuel which is why I mounted it below the tank. I noticed that K&N sells a similar pump to that looks identical but with a different name. I don't think its the same as the Mr. Gasket because that one has more of a whirring sound where as this sounds like an SU pump on steroids.
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I might have that same pump in my 66 feeding the Weber IDA.... Is it a rather noisy pump? When mine sucks air, it can sound like a jack-hammer! One thing to keep in mind... Some pumps are very sensitive to mounting location, as in 'pusher' vs. 'sucker'. Some pumps will fail quickly if asked to 'push' fuel from the tank, when they are designed to 'suck' fuel to the engine compartment.
They look so much like the Mr Gasket brand, I wonder if they're not made in the same factory.
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Thanks for everyone's input! I ended up going with a Facet Posi-flo fuel pump which is rated for 4-7 psi and has a nominal output of 3 psi or so the details claim. I ended up having to manufacture a bracket from aircraft grade aluminum and mounting it below the fuel tank bolted to the rear sub-frame lower section at a 45 degree angle. So far there has been no carburetor flooding issues and it performs great!
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If anyone wants to use the "rover" inertia switch unit as per the Mpi minis, it is easily found stateside on every series 2 land rover discovery, on the firewall, passenger side, about 12" off the vehicle centreline.
It's been fun, but this place is done. I have no hatred, and appreciate the good times. But this place now belongs to Tony and his pink mini.
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That is what we did for the Traveller with an injection engine.
You can see the inertia switch behind the FPR and next to the fan relay. The wire is right there for the fuel pump and and it is a flat upright surface for mounting.
There are a number of after market switches for this but we used the SPi/MPi version.
Terry
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I have not seen an aftermarket one installed but don't see why you could not use one from an spi Mini.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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has anyone installed a fuel shut off incase of accident like they have in the fords ect that have electric pumps. you push the button to reset it
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look at the specs of the Walbro in a JC Whitney catalog. My friend used them on lots of british cars.
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Thanks for the info man!
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I've been running a Mr.Gasket 4-7lb pump for over a year and a half now on an HIF44, without a pressure reg. The quality of the pump is hit or miss, but if you get one that works it seems it will work "forever" - it took me three pumps to get agood one.....my car is an Estate, and at first I had it mounted up on the firewall, but later moved it to the back. I barely hear it when it runs before the engine starts and I can't hear it at all once the engine's running.
I think they're a good solution for the money.
MiniDave,
Is this the link to what you are using? Also are you using the original type needle and seat?
//shop.mr-gasket.com/air-and-fuel-systems/fuel-pumps/electric-fuel-pump-micro-35-gph-gasoline.html
Thanks,
John
Yep, that's exactly it - I bought it from O'Reilys.......and yes, stock needle and seat. I'm assumng it's OK cause it doesn't release any fuel out the overflow, however, I'm still learning about the HIF carbs, I don't know if fuel pressure can affect the mixture, for example. I don't think so, but.....
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Or of course you could buy a SU fuel pump and not worry about excessive pressure? The new electronic ones are great been using them for years on all my restorations without a problem
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Man just what I thought! Thanks for checking.
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OK, I just called our carb guy Ed on his day off, got him off his tractor and asked him... Now I have to back-peddle a bit, as he said they ARE indeed different... use a different thread! He says they seemed to have stopped making them for the HIF44! He could only suggest possibly sellers on ebay having NOS items...
There ARE standard replacements that flow more, having a larger orifice, but in my experience, those are even more sensitive to excessive pressure so I don't recommend them. Many people DO run the standard needle and seat (about .090 thou) with the bigger fuel pumps without issues (see miniDave7's post a few back)... you can certainly try it, then add a simple regulator if needed...
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Please let me know because the description says for HS type. Im looking to get one but for HIF. Thanks.
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This looks like the one I installed in the HIF44 on the Moke... I know the description says HS, but I'll try to verify. I used to install these when I built a supercharged 1275 + to get a bit of extra fuel flow:
//www.minimania.com/part/AUD9096GR/Grose-Jet-Float-Needle-And-Seat--Sprite--Mg-Midget--Mini
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Thanks for the heads up! The site looks completely revamped from a couple of months back, when I wanted to ask them if those pumps could work with positive ground (Like the AUF214G, which DOES work with positive ground). I'm glad to see that, as I've used many of their products over the years... My big block Chevy still has the 1/4 inch thick copper header gaskets I installed in the early 90s!
The new pumps do seem very sensitive to having a good ground. When I installed in the Moke, it wouldn't work at first, on the same connections as the AUF214G. If this works, it's a couple of minutes of me showing the installation, and running it:
Nice video Jamal! Any leads where I can find a new gross jet needle and seat? I used to see them sold in the typical mini online store and once rebuilt an HIF44 carb with one. Either I am blind or they are obsolete now because I only see them for HS series carbs.
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Thanks for the heads up! The site looks completely revamped from a couple of months back, when I wanted to ask them if those pumps could work with positive ground (Like the AUF214G, which DOES work with positive ground). I'm glad to see that, as I've used many of their products over the years... My big block Chevy still has the 1/4 inch thick copper header gaskets I installed in the early 90s!
The new pumps do seem very sensitive to having a good ground. When I installed in the Moke, it wouldn't work at first, on the same connections as the AUF214G. If this works, it's a couple of minutes of me showing the installation, and running it:
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I've been running a Mr.Gasket 4-7lb pump for over a year and a half now on an HIF44, without a pressure reg. The quality of the pump is hit or miss, but if you get one that works it seems it will work "forever" - it took me three pumps to get agood one.....my car is an Estate, and at first I had it mounted up on the firewall, but later moved it to the back. I barely hear it when it runs before the engine starts and I can't hear it at all once the engine's running.
I think they're a good solution for the money.
MiniDave,
Is this the link to what you are using? Also are you using the original type needle and seat?
//shop.mr-gasket.com/air-and-fuel-systems/fuel-pumps/electric-fuel-pump-micro-35-gph-gasoline.html
Thanks,
John
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I've been running a Mr.Gasket 4-7lb pump for over a year and a half now on an HIF44, without a pressure reg. The quality of the pump is hit or miss, but if you get one that works it seems it will work "forever" - it took me three pumps to get agood one.....my car is an Estate, and at first I had it mounted up on the firewall, but later moved it to the back. I barely hear it when it runs before the engine starts and I can't hear it at all once the engine's running.
I think they're a good solution for the money.
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Did you prefer it over the stock SU electric pump? Some of the reviews I read on the Mr. Gasket one was negative and I haven't had much luck with their high flow thermostats.
The stock fuel pump was a mechanical one and had failed, it was a friends car i had stored for a while and they had a decent offer and wanted to move it on fast. The buyer wanted an electric fuel pump.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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