where are those two blue lines are coming from and going to? a breather??? you mean he installed a big square space eating thing just for a breather??????

but you mentioned about electric water pump, that rang a bell, that can be another potential for cooling the engine, let me think of a topic to argue about.

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Speaking of fans, I wonder if his radiator fan is still sitting backwards...  Imagine the push-potential if it were mounted correctly...  I prefer a full-scale 'degreed' capilary temperature gauge, as I've never known what temperature degree 'N' relates to, so I'd only imagine that if the radiator fan is correctly pushing air, then the engine will be operating at a cooler temperature, thereby negating the need for an oil cooler. 

By the way, tmsmith - back in the day, KC installed a front mounted radiator to his clubby racecar as a supplement to the side-mounted radiator to take advantage of the more direct airflow.  No mechanical fan used, just the electric water pump.  I can't remember if he's using an electric fan in the inner wing or mounted to the side radiator for stationary cooling in the pits.

"...What????? coolers is as dirty as the inside of your engine zip, take your engine apart and you'll see how thick the gunk deposits are in there rigjht now., clinging on the sidewall. how much more the little channels inside the oil cooler...gosh zip!.."

Maybe you're describing the inside of one of your engines. Seven years ago we went through the Moke's engine that had been in use for forty years. I found none of these"gunk deposits" you're describing. I would look at those deposits as a sure sign of neglected maintenence.

promise? no backing out? like what jeg and his shadow did to me?

omg, wait, are you from London? gosh i don't have money for postage that far.

im looking for an oil cooler actually.

As you can't seem to produce a picture of your FAN tastic oil cooler set up for Robin i am assuming you do not have one. That being said i would like to donate an oil cooler to you free of charge just send me an address and email it will be in the next post to you. No BS like youv'e played before one size fits all when it comes to Mini oil coolers. Then i would be pleased if you took some oil temps before and after so we can compare. BTW it may need cleaning.

I can't seem to find a fan for it (they are as rare as hens teeth) but i am sure with your out of the box thinking you can come up with something.

Remember 3 strikes you're out.

How did we go from cooling oil that, most likely, shouldn't be cooled to cleaning* a cooler that shouldn't be getting dirty?

*-Any racer worth his salt would toss said cooler if there was even a hint of contamination. And, most likely, they'll know what temperature the oil is at when running.....

Edit: And no, I do not worship the Haynes Book of Lies. I use it for information just like I use the factory manual, parts manuals and asking folks that actually know something.
Hopefully, nobody pays any attention to your "logic" and "thinking outside the box" rantings.

the problem starts when you start worshiping the Haynes manual, don't let it run your life,  cleaning the oil cooler with kerosine or diesel is not in Haynes manual BUT it works, so long as it works im on it.  NOW if you soak kerosine inside the coolant radiator that's a different story! see the logic  Sir Dan?

Wrong again... it (what I wrote) means he can't "level DOWN" to wherever you are at. 

haha, it means he can't level up...i see beyond, what is beyond.

+1   agreed!

Do you guys hear that?

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Zippy got sucked in trying to use logic with Boison.

(Psssst Robin: it's something you just can't win)

Please do not engage "the one who cannot be named"

Not sure why you cannot get your head around this Boison but it is simple. Heat dissipation and air flow is the way it works, the same way a radiator with an electric fan does it or radiator with a fan clutch until it gets hot enough for the fan/clutch to cut in. Airflow works well with any front mounted radiator or cooler. The oil should not generate enough heat to need a fan when sitting in traffic.

I'm not an expert but it's in google buddy. Leave it alone and let it circulate? Make sure there's no obstruction inside the oil and water hoses and underneath the sump like a sump guard that has no vents and make sure both coolant and oil is at it's proper level. But then again timing and all that sh1t needs to be ok too. They all work hand in hand. That $100 nore or less can be used for other necessary parts for my mini

so how does the oil cools down without a fan then?? you just circulate the oil without doing anything to it., unless the oil cooler has a built in nitrogen injector system. How about those oil filled air compressors? the oil does not heat up, does it mean the compressor won't perform @ it's peak?

Realize that was with an MPi engine with the front mounted radiator.

That is only one trip and my own experience, but I have done other shorter runs in heat. But it is why I say the front radiator is more efficient.

Terry

It's obvious that the pink mini in the avatar isn't likely to be Tony's.  The avatar image has a grill and grill buttons, Tony's has a home-made chrome or stainless aperature surrround as seen in one of these quite entertaining videos:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgp2LoSK40RrMy336Knslvg/playlists

Here it is, clearly visible at about 40 seconds in the video:

If you like these videos, there are plenty more available at the link above.  Yes, I downloaded them back in the day when Tony made them available for us to enjoy.  Once long lost from Tony's YouTube page, they've now resurfaced; ours to enjoy!

I'll say it publicly - we can all learn a lot.