I'm impressed, Terry. It sounds like your car was running well and had no need for the cooler indeed. I likely could have done a few different things to get my temps down. With the new engine, it won't have the cooler until it proves itself necessary. Mainly because it's big and takes up space that I don't necessarily want to give up.

Since Rover is out of business, one cannot very well lecture them.

I am still not convinced that "the one who cannot be named" is not an existing member of the board is disguise.

I never thought the MM forum would be turned into a children's fantasy. In some ways I have to credit MM with me getting back into Minis.

PS: In driving the MPi for about a total of 10 hours, over Monitor pass and onto Orange County down 395 through 108+ temps we never reached "the red zone."

And you installed bonnet stripes on the primer, something only you would do. Just more Bull$hit.

Terry's MPI article reads slow down and drive gently until the temp goes down not stop as you stated. It would be really hard imo to reach 150 c / 302 F and your fan theory is of no use moving on the road which is where those temps could be obtained.

Sir Terry, i saw your post on my celfone while laying on my bed, i jumped and opened my computer immediately,because its difficult to type on my cellphone, i just needed to comment back , You mean everytime the temp gauge reach the red zone you gotta stop on the side of the road? and if it reach the red zone 10-20 times in one trip, you have to stop 10-20times as well?????????????my goodness!  gosh!! that is the reason why i emphasize that if you install an oil cooler it is WISE to put a fan with thermostat, that way you don't need to stop the engine and the car in the middle of the road to cool down... it's as simple as that. Now pls point me to your other forum where you posted it and i will give them a lecture about oil cooler do's and don'ts.

Dead on, Terry. My car didn't really have the oil temp issue when I lived in a more mild climate. I'm sure your climate is fairly mild compared to the Texas heat I was dealing with in Dallas. I've got an oil temp gauge now. The 1380 will have an oil cooler on the shelf waiting. As soon as the oil temps get a bit hot, it'll be popped on.

Gauges are your friend.

I posted this on another forum awhile back. It is from the Rover manual for MPi Minis:

Seems a little hot to me?

Mine seems to stay within 90-120, but if it got close to 150 I would be concerned.

  90 C = 194 F
100 C = 212 F
120 C = 248 F
150 C = 302 F

No cooler on my car...

Terry

Bingo. And 180°f isn't hard to achieve in the boreal winters either. Just as you said earlier, Dan. Letting the car warm up is the key. And blocking off the grille or radiator helps as well. Some even use grille blankets. The oil will take longer to get to operatign temp, but will have a tendency to stay warm longer (less fluctuation) which is good in the glacial Canadian winters.

Oh, such drama.......

Just wait Sir Malcolm (are there really 2 L's in your name?) , soon i'll come out in the open....im going to lay all the cards on the table., i will soon reveal my real identity..................nobody wants to stay in the dark side forever.

You know how liars are Robin they lie so much they start to believe their own lies.

First you tell us the pink wonder was painted red. (and even showed pictures of the sump guard & front valance) Now, if I understand your ramblings, it's in primer. (even though your avatar shows a Mini that's neither primer or red)
Keep telling us stories. It's entertaining watching you trying to keep things straight.

Sir Robin, the mini in my avatar is painted initially with primer and was taken few months ago. i will post the final red colored mini soon.  If the MMW will happen in Socal, i'll be glad to meet you if you decide to come and drive your mini from North Ohio to California... it'll only take you 35hr (2,405.4 mi), and you will take West of I-40.

Wrong, in so many ways.

• If you'd bother to read carefully, one was an 850 and the other a 998. That's how Minis imprted to Canada came. period. There were a few rare Coopers and Cooper S's but those were imported by individuals or on very special order
• My first car was from a used car lot - I still have the bill of sale. The second was a private sale. IN 1975 I priced a brand new Mini CDN $2,155 + $110 shipping & dealer prep+ $158 sales tax + $23 licence plae + $2,446. Of course the Canadian dollar was worth more than the US dollar at the time.
• Canada gets cold winters, but we get hot summers too. Maybe not Arizona or California hot, but hot nonetheless.
• It wasn't Malsal OR Zippy who mentioned ideal oil tems. It was Mytmous who wrote "Optimal temp is around 220°f and up to 260°f. Engine damage can occur if temps are consistently too low. (e.g. below 180°f)." and before that "Well I'll never believe that 170°f is ideal on any car. Most oils aren't happy below 180°f and are optimal around 200°-220°f."

Be as cautious as you like and pass on another opportunity.
You embarrass yourself every time you post. And, you seem to be worried about a picture. [rolleyes]

Speaking of pictures, why isn't the Mini in your avatar red? You've told us that it's been repainted from pink to red and still have not posted a picture of the fine job you did. (Most guys can't wait to show off fresh paint)
There again, you've posted all sorts of "stories". You started out living in Yuma Arizona then, suddenly, you're in Killeen Texas and now you "have a house in Irvine, California".....

Are your eyes brown by any chance?

Sir M, i just want to make sure this time that my identity will be secured, because i remember last time, somebody used my picture. he posted a picture of me riding and hugging a can of WD40(and of course with my epic nipples showing) my friends saw it and they all laugh at me. im avoiding such embarassing moments that's why im very cautious this time. hope you understand.

There are acouple of old sayings that come to mind "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth" and "Beggars can't be choosers".

FWIW i would not be suprised if the petronix part(s) are made in China.

You will use an Asian made throttle cable though.

With regards to your picture YOU are the one who posted it on the internet no one else YOU were the one who was responsible for that which has been verified more than once by JEG.

He wants an email and mailing address he's not running your fan club for Christ's sake.

Sir M, i just wanted to know if Sir A's elect dizzy is a 59d flamethrower with a Pertronix2 module, if not, it may not be worthy for me to post pic of myself standing beside my mini and be seen by many in this forum...again, i don't use chinese made elect dizzy on my mini, just so you know in advance..

Alex knows the specs of your car Boison probably better than you and would not offer it to you if it would not work, why on Earth would you want to find out any specs on a FREE dizzy.

Just more of your usual stall anonymity tactics i presume, you will screw this deal up also Boison and someone else will be waiting in the wind just like before.

Sir Dan, really? minis cost $175 and $350 back in the days??? used?  oh, i see they are 850"s.

to begin with, Canadians don't have issues with overheating minis because you know,temps goes as low as -50F. you guys probably have not seen your temp gauge to come close to N.  i agree, oil performs at room temp and warm temp, it doesnt necessarily be hot to attain ideal driveabilty. Zip and Mal,made us believe that oil needs to be hot 200+F for the mini to run good...snap out of it! it's NOT!  warm temp is enough.

lets put it this way:  too much heat in the combustion chamber fries the pistons AND too much heat inside crankcase/oil will fry the oil seals. i'd  accept the fact that mini consumes more gas when running cold rather than damaging the internal parts when HOT.

Sir A, pls tell me the specs of your free Electronic dizzy, and we'll go from there...i'm interested

                                                                            Sincerely yours'

                                                                                      Boison