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 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 01:41PM
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not stoned, not stupic.... just being practical and has eye for beauty.,,

 

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 12:30PM
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robster. you are STONED or just plain STUPIC?/  better check current moke prices out on www.ebay.co.uk  

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 11:00AM
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Originally Posted by Dr Mini

"Is $7500 a reasonable price for a restoration project Moke in the US?" 

I'd say it depends on the condition of the Moke.  As you are the proud owner of 13 of these Catalina Island Mokes, I would say any Moke in that condition is not worth $7500, even with a full complement of seats.  There seems to be very little salvageable from those bodies that you could add panels to and come out ahead.  IMHO, when you buy one of those CI Moke projects you are getting a tired 850 with 1st and 2nd gear totally raped, a VIN plate and title, a fuel tank, and maybe, just maybe, bumpers and seats.  Oh yeah, and a windshield frame.  Everything else on these jewels have returned to the elements beyond salvaging.   If that equates to $7500 then Tom should have folks lining up to buy.  I purchased quite a few panels from the UK to restore my Moke and it was worthwhile, but it was not a CI Moke and it didn't cost half the price Tom is asking when I bought it as a running, everyday driver Moke.  When finished I may have a fair amount of money in it, but it will still be less than what it is worth, and will be something my 1 yr old granddaughter will enjoy one day when I am long gone.

ok ill tell you a little story, i went to Catalina island 2years ago with wifey, i brought my own segway, i stayed there for 3 days , when i went back home guess what i noticed my 5 month Segway has rust all over the handle bars and step plate and brackets, my goodness i was only there for 3days, imagine these mokes have been there for ages,and the air has huge amount of salt... very damaging to metal.

just sharing... 

 

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 10:50AM
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dr mini aka dr pepper.. I totally agree.. As I can still buy rolling shell choke for $6800 from the chinese. FOB Shanghai  shipping $1k each to charleston sc  .. with no engine/tranny  and then replace the brakes with OEM parts.. what am I missing for rusty POS at same price??

WHAT??? $6800 FOR THE SHELL ONLY???? IS IT MADE OF GOLD??  AND $1K FOR THE SHIPPING?? 

$7,800 for a non running moke?????  pls pinch me im having a bad dream????

 

well to each his own i guess..

 

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 10:08AM
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dr mini aka dr pepper.. I totally agree.. As I can still buy rolling shell choke for $6800 from the chinese. FOB Shanghai  shipping $1k each to charleston sc  .. with no engine/tranny  and then replace the brakes with OEM parts.. what am I missing for rusty POS at same price??

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 08:33AM
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"Is $7500 a reasonable price for a restoration project Moke in the US?" 

I'd say it depends on the condition of the Moke.  As you are the proud owner of 13 of these Catalina Island Mokes, I would say any Moke in that condition is not worth $7500, even with a full complement of seats.  There seems to be very little salvageable from those bodies that you could add panels to and come out ahead.  IMHO, when you buy one of those CI Moke projects you are getting a tired 850 with 1st and 2nd gear totally raped, a VIN plate and title, a fuel tank, and maybe, just maybe, bumpers and seats.  Oh yeah, and a windshield frame.  Everything else on these jewels have returned to the elements beyond salvaging.   If that equates to $7500 then Tom should have folks lining up to buy.  I purchased quite a few panels from the UK to restore my Moke and it was worthwhile, but it was not a CI Moke and it didn't cost half the price Tom is asking when I bought it as a running, everyday driver Moke.  When finished I may have a fair amount of money in it, but it will still be less than what it is worth, and will be something my 1 yr old granddaughter will enjoy one day when I am long gone.

"Retired:  No Job, No Money, Wife and I!  Will travel anywhere for Minis"

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 08:14AM
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Thanks for all your comments.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex

With only a couple of panels left to do, it will soon be possible to legally reshell these with brand new shells which are of a better quality than the originals.

We already have 100% of all the necessary panels to build new bodyshells.  Our panels are not reproduction but rather are all genuine and were made at the Moke factory in Portugal.  But you're right.  Our plan is to salvage what we can of the drivetrains and build new bodyshells for them.  It might take us a few years to finish them all but they should be better than when new.

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Originally Posted by Dr Mini

Wasn't Tom Schramm wanting $7500 each for his rusty Catalina Island Mokes?  I doubt anyone could buy his at those prices, ship to England, reshell, and expect to make it financially work.  I'm glad it worked for Larry, but I think Tom is in dreamland expecting those prices for what he has.  Just a thought.  Glad I bought my Moke years ago when they were cheap.

I spoke with Tom Schramm and he told me he had had interest from a buyer in Japan for the whole lot at $7500 each.  But I agree with you.  Most will have rusted in the usual places and once you have added shipping and reshelling costs, it just isn't worth it.  But it would be nice to get our hands on all those seats!


I think you would spend alot less than the equivelent of $7500 for a restoration project here in the UK.  But you simply don't find them very often.  That's why I wondered whether any one knew whether Tom had sold any.  Is $7500 a fair price for a Moke restoration project in the US?   Larry mentioned that they only imported something like 600 English Mokes into the US.  Roger

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 06:53AM
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Wasn't Tom Schramm wanting $7500 each for his rusty Catalina Island Mokes?  I doubt anyone could buy his at those prices, ship to England, reshell, and expect to make it financially work.  I'm glad it worked for Larry, but I think Tom is in dreamland expecting those prices for what he has.  Just a thought.  Glad I bought my Moke years ago when they were cheap.

"Retired:  No Job, No Money, Wife and I!  Will travel anywhere for Minis"

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 05:16AM
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I took a look at their link. While not for the weak of heart looks like for around $11,000 you could have one on your front proch. My Moke project is between replace the floor and bang out a few dents and a full blown rework. I have figured the sheet metal with shipping to be in the $2000/2500 range. If I bought a new shell I'd have to sell mine shell. Or I could have it repaired and sell it as such. May be best to keep it simple. Steve (CTR)

PS I am glad Larry was able to make a deal. 

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 02:25AM
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GB

Having seen the quality of the Moke panels being remanufactured over here, I can totally see why these have been bought and shipped.  With only a couple of panels left to do, it will soon be possible to legally reshell these with brand new shells which are of a better quality than the originals.

Don't think of it as buying 17 rot-boxes, think of it as investing in 17 logbooks and drivetrains.

 Posted: Nov 17, 2014 01:58AM
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Wow!!! This is a very noteworthy posting!!! Thanks for sharing!!!                     Mini Estate

"It's a good day when you wake up with a Woody!"
 Posted: Nov 16, 2014 09:25AM
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outstanding.. you are a brave soul buying these mokes.. I have cell number and address for Tomm Schramm in Edina Minn.. 55436.. will shoot to you off line.. the only question is WHY would you EVER buy this rust bucket mokes??

 Posted: Nov 16, 2014 08:53AM
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About 7 years ago we got a Catalina Moke from Larry. While it was one of the last Mokes he kept inside(the others were left to brave the elements), it still required a lot of work to bring it to its current state. Glad you have saved the rest of the bunch.

Here is a picture of our Moke from a couple of years ago when it was nearing the end of its restoration: 

 Posted: Nov 16, 2014 06:36AM
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Well done M-parts, keep the legend Alive-

And a special thanks for helping Larry out

BIG AL

Niagara Ontario Canada

 Posted: Nov 16, 2014 04:57AM
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WOW, this is wonderful news.

Also, thank you for sharing the link to your website, it is great to hear what you have done to keep Mokes on the road (or laying in wait for a restoration), alive.

Norm

 Posted: Nov 16, 2014 04:35AM
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We flew out from England last month and spent a few very pleasant days with Larry Holloway in NJ.  We finalised a deal to buy amongst the last of his Catalina Mokes and packed 17 of them into a container which arrived in England last week.  He has kept a couple back, so if you're quick ... ...

Most of the Mokes are original and complete, although 20 years of being left outside has certainly taken its toll and most of the bodyshells are beyond repair.  However that's not a problem for us since we have all the original and genuine Moke sheet metal from the Moke factory and building new bodyshells is what we do. Click here for details.  They will certainly keep us busy for the next few years and it's nice to think that 17 Mokes will be put back on the road.  Otherwise they would probably have slowly rusted into the ground or been rebodied as Chokes.

Back in 1990, Larry's original endeavour of buying and transporting the 58 remaining Mokes off Catalina Island should not be under estimated.  It was hard enough trying to ship just 17 of them last month.

Does anyone know whether Tom Schramm has been successful in selling any of his Catalina Mokes that re-emerged earlier in the year?  Larry was telling us that the original deal was that Tom would get the Mokes that were in the poorest condition.  At least his have been kept under cover.  After 20 years of being left outside in NJ, Tom's Mokes are in virtually pristine condition compared to the ones we brought back.

Roger

 

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