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//browsemags.com/mini-magazine-may-1-2013/982-su-carburettor-tuning.html
Don't know if you've read this article, but it's got some really GREAT information in it.
For example, check out the paragraph on dampers -
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I like books and had a good collection of both SU and Weber info. Have a SU needle chart book at home and the shop. as well as the big SU book. I do comparisons on old scraps of paper. My O2 gauge has been the biggest help. O2 , EGT and vacuum are all helpful. With twins a Unisyn is a must.
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Howard's 2 carb set up and more advanced cam and state of tune may make for a different carb-tinkering experience.
Before (red line): This was my first run with my mini where I assumed the car was set up correctly. Ran great and had a needle that was recommended with no dyno runs or understanding where the A/F was. This is not the right way to do it and was dangerously lean and lower power.
After (green line): after cross referencing needles and trying some and using others to make up the optimal A/F gap, we found the right one during the session - but you can clearly see that I am still running rich at tip in. My pal and I are no cross referencing the 300+ needles to find one that can slightly lean out the mixture (i.e. going slightly ticker at top of needle) and keep the optimal A/F after 3k. And will also be trying out a new dashpot damper (AUC8114) and possibly a different SU spring - again, looking at another dyno run to get that green line smoothed out.
So I do not side with the "read a book at pick your perfect needle" concept - unless you combine that with a couple hours on a rolling road to truly understand where the optimal power is. This is the only way to know what needle to use. Otherwise, you are guessing like I did on that red line you see above.
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The air fuel ratio was spot on when he was done.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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Howard's 2 carb set up and more advanced cam and state of tune may make for a different carb-tinkering experience.
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Just spent 5 hours myself a couple weeks ago and was astonishing what you can learn and dial in for the perfect needle.
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1293cc
Kent 276 cam
1.5 roller rockers
12G 1316 Smog head slightly ported
Compression ratio approx 10:1
Header with single box exhaust
Pertronix
Dual HS2's w/ K&N single box air filter
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There is a replacement tool from the MK-1 forum.
It does require you to install Open Office as there is some programming that is not compatible with MS Office.
from a forum post:
In the meantime, if you have "LibreOffice" or "OpenOffice" on your computer,
you may be interested in this needle comparison tool:
(IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO WORK WITH M$ OFFICE)
//mk1-performance-conversions.co.uk/technical_carb.htm
Terry
There's also a function which allows you to lower or raise the jet and 'see' the effect change in annular area as a percentage, as with the usual compare a handful of needles, similarity recommendations and the ability to modify a 'test needle' for comparison (fx. removing 0.002" from position 5 of an AAA results in (x)% change from the standard dimension.
Using this tool, you can also compare 0.100" needles to 0.090" needles - as sometimes, with HIF carbs, one fits a larger jet to a smaller carb or vice versa.
Ian presented this comparison tool to Berlen Fuel Systems last year or so and they were highly impressed. I haven't spoken with Ian since the last revision, so I don't know if Berlen will be incorporating his work to their website. Yes, I'm biased - I assisted Ian with some development opinions and quality checks, making the odd data correction and giving feedback prior to release.
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scroll down to taper selector section
//teglerizer.com/sucarbs/index.html
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- I just tried it and got nowhere also
does this one help any?
www.winsu.co.uk
this hyperlink does not work, so copy and paste
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There is a replacement tool from the MK-1 forum.
It does require you to install Open Office as there is some programming that is not compatible with MS Office.
from a forum post:
In the meantime, if you have "LibreOffice" or "OpenOffice" on your computer,
you may be interested in this needle comparison tool:
(IT'S NOT DESIGNED TO WORK WITH M$ OFFICE)
//mk1-performance-conversions.co.uk/technical_carb.htm
Terry
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It was a great way to compare the hundreds of needle option when doing modified engines.
If anyone know how to reach the person who created it please let me know.
Graham 949-646-6404
Graham.
www.HeritageGarage.com