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| Mar 2, 2016 08:27PM | triggerboy | Edited: Mar 2, 2016 08:35PM |
| Mar 2, 2016 05:14PM | jeg | |
| Mar 2, 2016 04:23PM | triggerboy | |
| Mar 2, 2016 04:15PM | malsal | |
| Mar 2, 2016 03:19PM | triggerboy | |
| Mar 2, 2016 03:04PM | triggerboy | |
| Mar 2, 2016 02:47PM | Dan Moffet | |
| Mar 2, 2016 02:34PM | triggerboy | |
| Mar 2, 2016 09:39AM | Dan Moffet | |
| Mar 1, 2016 08:12PM | triggerboy | Edited: Mar 1, 2016 08:13PM |
| Mar 1, 2016 08:05PM | triggerboy | |
| Mar 1, 2016 03:27PM | jeg | |
| Mar 1, 2016 03:22PM | triggerboy | |
| Mar 1, 2016 03:18PM | malsal | |
| Mar 1, 2016 03:12PM | Dan Moffet | |
| Mar 1, 2016 02:53PM | triggerboy | Edited: Mar 1, 2016 02:54PM |
| Mar 1, 2016 02:39PM | malsal | Edited: Mar 1, 2016 02:42PM |
| Mar 1, 2016 02:21PM | triggerboy | Edited: Mar 1, 2016 02:39PM |
| Mar 1, 2016 02:15PM | jeg | |
| Mar 1, 2016 01:57PM | triggerboy |
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Wow sir jeg you are really a wealth of information, very detailed, you know if i ever choose between you and mighty mouse, i'll choose you in any day.
Thanks for the infos , i dont have any idea about the anatomy and physics of mini suspension, still learning,and still connecting dots. Your input helps alot.
Thanks for the infos , i dont have any idea about the anatomy and physics of mini suspension, still learning,and still connecting dots. Your input helps alot.
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I mean just to get away of the need to use a compressing tool, the purpose of the compressing tool is to pull the thin lip of the cone to insert it on the grove of the trumphet right? If i can do that inserting procedure outside of the frame .
If you've removed the old rubber cones, you'll notice that the center has a metal plate. The cone compressor compresses the cone by pulling upwards and allows the relatively fragile aluminium strut to be inserted between the knuckle joint and the rubber cone.
Under no circumstances should you try to lever or force the aluminium strut into position, for risk of cracking or chipping the cone seat. Buy, borrow or build a cone compressor if HiLo's aren't in the budget. If you choose to build your own rubber cone compressor, be aware of the forces involved - it's extremely dangerous if it all goes wrong, so don't be tempted to use a bit of plumbing pipe or half-assed materials.
In the end, it's sensible to just buy the tool and do it right. Oftentimes a local club will have specialized tools that get passed around between club members, so ask your local club - after you join, of course...
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I mean just to get away of the need to use a compressing tool, the purpose of the compressing tool is to pull the thin lip of the cone to insert it on the grove of the trumphet right? If i can do that inserting procedure outside of the frame .
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Silly question: can i possibly fuse the cone and the trumphet together BEFORE i slap it inside the steel frame? Or is the space tight?
Haaay!! If only sir Alec is alive, im gonna suggest a lot of things to change in the mini,,grrr, lol
Haaay!! If only sir Alec is alive, im gonna suggest a lot of things to change in the mini,,grrr, lol
A lot of manufacturers tried and failed even BMC/Leyland/Rover with different models but the Mini outlasted them all.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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No, the Smooth-a-Ride cones don't increase the height to 4". Only maybe 1" or so more, and that settles out before too long. The kit comes with adjustable trumpets to fix that. But I still suggest you use the stock cones.
agreed sir dan, i got no choice, i may really need to get those cones, at least for the front, i don't care about the back suspension, they're so spoiled, the front cones takes all the beating., it's lettuce season, im gonna start picking lettuce to raise that money to buy that hi lo thing... we'll see,,,
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Silly question: can i possibly fuse the cone and the trumphet together BEFORE i slap it inside the steel frame? Or is the space tight?
Haaay!! If only sir Alec is alive, im gonna suggest a lot of things to change in the mini,,grrr, lol
Haaay!! If only sir Alec is alive, im gonna suggest a lot of things to change in the mini,,grrr, lol
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No, the Smooth-a-Ride cones don't increase the height to 4". Only maybe 1" or so more, and that settles out before too long. The kit comes with adjustable trumpets to fix that. But I still suggest you use the stock cones.
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thanks for the idea.. i find these moulton cones very tall, although they look durable, they are simply huge, our minis as is looks dorky,how much more if i put moulton cones in front, it will be like like an ostrich running in the street,so tall. gosh. on my car, the tire to front quarter panel clearance is about 1 1/2 inches, not too bad, it still looks sporty, if i put that moulton thing, it might go up as high as 4inches..wow, i may need to wear my pants as high as my chest if that happens,talking about dorkiness.,reminds me of the 3 stooges. i'd probably go to the standard rubber cone.
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Howdy Sir Dan, its 6:22pm in ottawa now, how you are in good health and spirit.
Someone mention about the coil over shocks, it didnt seem to sink in until i saw this picture, i think this is a more easier to install set up, i may use the ATV coil overs, i can see mounting points in the mini feasible for coil over shocks.
Someone mention about the coil over shocks, it didnt seem to sink in until i saw this picture, i think this is a more easier to install set up, i may use the ATV coil overs, i can see mounting points in the mini feasible for coil over shocks.
The coil-over solution isn't as simple as the picture suggests. The parts probably will cost more than a set of cones and adjustable trumpets, and won't last any longer. The steel springs are not progressive (affects ride) and can break. One thing about MR. Moulton's original design, the cones are impossible to break.
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Wow, 39years of hard work!!! It withstand Potholes, speedbumps, sudden acceleration and sudden stop.,, i cant stand tossing this away in the garbage, it has served my mini for many years.
maybe it can make a good pencil eraser. Or pendant for my necklace
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Wow 1.75 ounce only?? Gosh, i think i swamped my CV joint about 4X of that, hope the boots wont burst at high speed, good thing i only go 45shh max.
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I'm sure the Haynes has a paragraph or two which covers adjusting the headlights...
I'd suggest watching classic mini repair videos - YouTube is full of them and they might be more relevant...
I also believe it's not advisable to give the CV joint or pot joints too much grease either. Unfortunately, my Haynes is in the garage, but I just checked a couple of factory manuals here at home; as near as I can tell, the late-model outer joints came packed from the factory with 3/4 oz (UK). grease and the larger late-type inboard offset sphere joints (aka 'pot joints') 1.75 oz (UK) grease. That's all they need, and why one could once buy a sachet of grease from the service department.
I'd suggest watching classic mini repair videos - YouTube is full of them and they might be more relevant...
I also believe it's not advisable to give the CV joint or pot joints too much grease either. Unfortunately, my Haynes is in the garage, but I just checked a couple of factory manuals here at home; as near as I can tell, the late-model outer joints came packed from the factory with 3/4 oz (UK). grease and the larger late-type inboard offset sphere joints (aka 'pot joints') 1.75 oz (UK) grease. That's all they need, and why one could once buy a sachet of grease from the service department.
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Howdy Sir Dan, its 6:22pm in ottawa now, how you are in good health and spirit. Someone mention about the coil over shocks, it didnt seem to sink in until i saw this picture, i think this is a more easier to install set up, i may use the ATV coil overs, i can see mounting points in the mini feasible for coil over shocks.
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Originally Posted by triggerboy
Im planning to get the moulton rubber cones , its a bit too high,im afraid the front headlight might glare the incoming car. I dont like a mini that has a high wheel clearance , i like a slammed mini. More attractive.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
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Originally Posted by triggerboy
Im planning to get the moulton rubber cones , its a bit too high,im afraid the front headlight might glare the incoming car. I don't like a mini that has a high wheel clearance , i like a slammed mini. More attractive.
I suggest you use standard, good quality front cones.
Once the car is back on its wheels, it is easy to adjust the headlights. Just remove the chrome ring (one screw) and then adjust the up/down adjuster (one more screw). You should adjust them anyway, no matter what cones you put in. You may find that the way the car was before you started, the headlights were not aimed well anyway.
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Im planning to get the moulton rubber cones , its a bit too high,im afraid the front headlight might glare the incoming car. I dont like a mini that has a high wheel clearance , i like a slammed mini. More attractive.
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You don't need that tool just a big hammer will work.
Put the money for the tool towards some front Hi Lo's at the rate the way new cones wear you will need them also you can cut your old trumpets off no spring compressor needed.
Put the money for the tool towards some front Hi Lo's at the rate the way new cones wear you will need them also you can cut your old trumpets off no spring compressor needed.
If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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I found a tool to replace the boots but not the cones,
as i watched this video, i was surprised i noticed after the guy de-virginized the rubber boot, he only put about 1/4 teaspoon of grease inside the axle, gosh thats more likely to seize in few days of driving
I normally fill it up with 2 packets of grease...
http
/youtu.be/oEKY0uFlBpc
as i watched this video, i was surprised i noticed after the guy de-virginized the rubber boot, he only put about 1/4 teaspoon of grease inside the axle, gosh thats more likely to seize in few days of driving
I normally fill it up with 2 packets of grease...
http
/youtu.be/oEKY0uFlBpc
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It's not uncommon to replace cones every 5 to 10 years, whether you've driven on them or not, so count on using the tool more than once.
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Thanks sir mal, will search for that. I know it can be immitated i just need to see one clear picture of it
