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 Posted: Feb 18, 2020 02:37PM
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 It is also a hell of a lot more comfortable to ride in for anything longer than an hour.  
My thoughts also. 

The only car show I attend regularly is held about 25 minutes from where I live.  I like my Mini and enjoy driving it... up to about half an hour.  

Doug L.
 Posted: Feb 18, 2020 05:41AM
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Biffidom:
Good points. I think this forum will continue as long as Don wants it to. Since his business also supports BMW MINIs, as well as classics, he has a reason to keep it going. We have been relatively troll-free for quite a while now, and we see 'old hands' dropping by on occasion.

Your lament about Mini owners being reluctant to participate in evening cruises was answered in your comments about Miatas "It is also a hell of a lot more comfortable to ride in for anything longer than an hour."

Here in Ottawa, we have the All British Car Day in the summer. There is usually a healthy contingent of Minis that come from as far away as Montreal for a one-day event. When MINIs became popular, the local dealer started a MINI club open to Minis and MINIs. I visited one dinner meeting at which there was one other Mini owner (Hi Miguel!). I arrived after their dinner - not much else happening and several of those present were IMHO too intoxicated to drive. Not for me.

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 Posted: Feb 18, 2020 05:11AM
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I think forums like MM will be around for a long time.  Perhaps the expertise from experienced users will fade.  Google will bring lost shade tree mechanics like myself to archives for years to come.

What I have found discouraging is the lack of a Mini community where I live.  I went to two British car shows and around here (one quite large) and I had a hard time making any connections.  I don't see myself as a social outcast... I did walk away with the impression that the mini owners were not interested in organizing an evening cruise or anything social of any sort.

I still have my Mini, but I recently bought a Miata and have found that since they are more ubiquitous there is a much more open and friendly crowd that comes with that car.  It is also a hell of a lot more comfortable to ride in for anything longer than an hour.  The Miata crowd will also organize autocross events and such all summer long.

I think the Mini crowd is taking themselves too seriously and forgot about the fun part of owning a car - rather than buff and brag events...

-Derek

 Posted: Feb 16, 2020 10:18AM
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As a newcomer to this forum I don't know if it is my place to tune in but i figured i would say my two cents, as a newbie here. I have seen some say that the new vs old MINI (or real vs not or whatever is it) is a bit overwhelming at first. 

it just might be frightening for newcomers to post...
First, Welcome (no matter how long you have been here now)!  This is your board too so you certainly are welcome to add your observations and comments.

When the MINI came out the new vs old issue was not in jest.  There was a lot of animosity.  The conflicts died down quite a bit and as you observed, now it is more poking fun than anything else.  Lately I have wondered about how owners of the now almost 20 year old first MINIs feel about the current MINI.  After all, the current cars are not so 'mini' anymore.

Regardless, anytime I have joined a new message board those first posts have been a bit anxious.  You never know if you'll get flamed for asking what some consider a silly or obvious question or whether you'll be welcomed.     
"Lately I have wondered about how owners of the almost 20 year old first MINIs feel about the current MINI. After all, the current cars are not so "mini" anymore."

Good question, being the owner of an 05 "S" since new (ordered just the way we wanted it) I still have it, 47k miles, garage kept, like new even today, black roof, black body, last year for a true black MINI. What do I think of the latest version? Honestly, not much. The folks at BMW have clearly made the car too big. Unless your looking at a decked out JCW model, there doesn't seem to be much interesting going on. The "just a cooper" is too plain, and the others with too many doors, well, I think it goes without saying when it comes to those cars.


I'll stick with my "First Gen" new MINI, thank you, and I'll enjoy driving my "Classic" on weekends.

IF IT WEREN'T FOR PHYSICS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, I'D BE UNSTOPPABLE

 Posted: Feb 14, 2020 02:55AM
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Sometimes I make fun of ourselves.  We own a 1987 Austin Mini from Wales (RHD of course)  and also (LHD) Canadian MINIs here (2009 & 2012)

I dearly love the lil' Classic Mini and we consider it a "true" Mini and the others are "baby beemers".

….and this is from people who OWN them.

Regardless, welcome.  They may not really be the next generation like many car models have evolved, but BMW was able to carry on the brand and even though in my mind, they are not the same, they are vaguely reminiscent of the original long lived Classic and so for that, they get my vote.

Joe Q public can often not differentiate.  Sometimes folks will tell me "Hey Mike, I saw this cool green Mini the other day", so I'll always say "Was it a classic mini or a new mini?"  Only rarely would they know.

If it hadn't been for big brother, the Mini/MINI would've died, like Doug said, nearly 20 yrs ago.

Not good

Have fun !  We're Bi-Minual and are having a blast with them.

  ~ 30 minutes in a Mini is more therapeutic than 3 sessions @ the shrink. ~

  Mike  Cool  NB, Canada   

 Posted: Feb 13, 2020 10:40PM
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Originally Posted by Alexzannder
As a newcomer to this forum I don't know if it is my place to tune in but i figured i would say my two cents, as a newbie here. I have seen some say that the new vs old MINI (or real vs not or whatever is it) is a bit overwhelming at first. 

it just might be frightening for newcomers to post...
First, Welcome (no matter how long you have been here now)!  This is your board too so you certainly are welcome to add your observations and comments.

When the MINI came out the new vs old issue was not in jest.  There was a lot of animosity.  The conflicts died down quite a bit and as you observed, now it is more poking fun than anything else.  Lately I have wondered about how owners of the now almost 20 year old first MINIs feel about the current MINI.  After all, the current cars are not so 'mini' anymore.

Regardless, anytime I have joined a new message board those first posts have been a bit anxious.  You never know if you'll get flamed for asking what some consider a silly or obvious question or whether you'll be welcomed.     

Doug L.
 Posted: Feb 13, 2020 08:25AM
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As a newcomer to this forum I don't know if it is my place to tune in but i figured i would say my two cents, as a newbie here. I have seen some say that the new vs old MINI (or real vs not or whatever is it) is a bit overwhelming at first. Although I see it as a bit of poking fun it has always been in my mind these first few posts of mine. I tried to read through quite a few post before I had any activity, I wanted to see what this forum and its members were like, and I did see a lot of new vs old comments out there. Like I said, I personally see it as poking fun just like, as stated already, mopar vs not, ford vs chevy, etc. but it still was in the back of my mind my first post, wondering if i was going to get "hate" "busted" "joked" or "mocked" for having a new MINI. Since I do consider myself a car guy, and a MINI guy and just because I can't afford a classic mini I don"t feel like that makes me less of a newbie MINI guy.

That being said, My first post had some good feedback on it and everyone here seems fantastically nice and helpful, new or old. I think, so far, that this place has lots of information and great people who are willing to help each other out.

it just might be frightening for newcomers to post and, like already stated, these younger generation of kids don't seem to be coming towards forums as much. maybe its because they have the "I want it now" mentality or maybe they just don't understand the wealth of knowledge that can be found on forums. forums are filled with empirical data and loads of anecdotal evidence and stories, they are something to be cherished. 

 Posted: Feb 10, 2020 03:10PM
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Who you callin' old?

Harumph ....you kids get off my lawn!

I also got frustrated with the forum and while not a big player here - seems like anytime someone needed an answer 5 other guys already did it before I could! - I thought I could contribute, but mostly I just read the tea leaves.

I'm mostly on Restoration Mini these days, but I do check in from time to time.

I think the biggest problem with getting young folks into classic Minis is how much it costs to fix them when you can't do the work your own self, and there are fewer and fewer of us out here who can/do work on them. And have you seen how much parts for these cars cost nowadays? Just check our host here..... And before you jump in and say well they should learn like we did - understand that today's kids grew up in a different world than we "old folks" did, they learned plug and play, not diagnose and repair. 

I had a guy bring me a Sprite motor to build - after tear down I quoted him $3-3500 parts, labor and machine shop work. He about had a cow - he thought I could do it for less than $1500.

Plus too and also, we all think our old cars are worth a ton of money - I blame you, Bring a Trailer!

 Posted: Feb 9, 2020 12:05PM
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While I geuss I'm a fortunate one, my Mini is as dependable as a new car. I don't come to this forum for much of anything these days. When I did a few times, asking what appeared to be a silly qeustion, I was referred to use the search engine for the subject, as most of the topics that concerned me anyway, had already been discussed to the high heavens. I ask foriveness for coming to the Classic Mini Community so late in life, it's been about 15 years since my first MINI purchase, and around 13 since I was tuned into the Classics. If I have mechanical, or electrical issues that are beyond my ability to take care of, I suppose I can always get CTR to help.

I'm spolied in that respect, as I understand, not everybody has the luxury of having someone Mini experienced in there own back yard. 

With that said, I do pop in from time to time, just to poke around and see if there should be a topic I'd like to get involved in. This happened to be one.

BTW, the weather was so sweet today, I took the wife, the dog, and the Mini for a smooth sailing 100+ mile run. We're all pretty tired now, so I bid you all a do.


IF IT WEREN'T FOR PHYSICS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, I'D BE UNSTOPPABLE

 Posted: Feb 8, 2020 05:22AM
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someone once told me..."a strange kettle of fish"

 Posted: Jan 23, 2020 06:17AM
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In reply to Xray's reply I guess he is talking about banning the scammers selling non related junk here.
My reference was to people banned who have a lot to share but a strange way of sharing. Steve (CTR)

Seems there is a scammer on page one all day with no action.

 Posted: Jan 20, 2020 08:41AM
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It's like texting with your phone.  Many young school kids get carried away with comments that they wouldn't try face to face.  The same happens on these forums with us older folks.  I know sometimes when I stop before hitting send and read my post I'll reword it or just hit cancel.  But as stated above, when I purchased my first Classic Mini from Calif and drove it home to Oregon, thanks to Jamal and many of you I was able to resolve many issues and enjoy this old car like I dreamed of over the years.

 Posted: Jan 19, 2020 07:13AM
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Steve: Thanks for pulling up your Moke thread - good re-reading.

The medicare thread may possibly have started with a Mini subject or about the health problems of a board member.
But it didn't stay there. I think at the end it was locked. It may have been purged or dropped with a board reorg or something. In any case, we don't want to go back there. I only mentioned it in response to scooperman's money-making idea.
I am all for supporting and encouraging Mini discussion, which would include info about board members, such as Dr. Mini, who i hope is recovering well.

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"Hang on a minute lads....I've got a great idea."

 Posted: Jan 18, 2020 10:04PM
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Can you tell me what a medicare debate has to do with minis? How many posts and how many views did it get honestly? Go find it and pull it back up. I'll pull one of my threads back to the front page and it will be about minis. Steve (CTR)

 Posted: Jan 18, 2020 02:54PM
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Scooperman: with that concept I could get very rich by re-introducing the medicare debate. Remember that one? It raged on for about 50 pages of posts. Nah! We don't want to go there again!

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"Hang on a minute lads....I've got a great idea."

 Posted: Jan 17, 2020 04:30PM
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Steve, I dont know what a saved board might be, but hey not my problem.  Just keep track of those who treat you with respect, and do so in kind.  Our host gives us a forum,  play nice on here and you will meet and have interesting discussions with good like-minded folks.  Yes, right in the middle of your conversation some doofus will dump on it.  Ignore them, or have fun with them, whatever.  Until MM starts charging $ for people to play in their sandbox, anybody with a keyboard can jump in.   Wait,  charging people to play in the sandbox...please hold...idea forming...

Hey, let's invent a new thing...I dream up an interesting topic and start posting about it....MM then charges me let's say 10 cents to start a new topic.  But every responder is charged one nickel to respond...MM gets to keep 2 cents and I get 3.  Ohhh I like this idea.  Today I ignore the wankers, if I got paid to deal with them then I could retire...

 Posted: Jan 17, 2020 11:19AM
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As far as the no nothing's my father always said " if you listen to a fool what does that make you".  And that is why I just let the dummies go off - I just don't go to that post again.  As far as the posts having to do with the BMW stuff - yawn.  The one thing I really miss is the in depth conversations regarding technical issues with give and take opinions. I will still lurk in hopes of finding that little piece of tech info that peaks my interest but it is not not will ever be what it was last century. You can't replace Elvis and you can't replace the classic Mini.  Kermit

 Posted: Jan 16, 2020 05:33AM
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It seems clear I was not aware of anyone but BC's very public banning. It does not matter, weather banned or
leaving due to lack content. The glory days are gone and even now I fail to see post or log in by the people who 
provided the worth while content. Credit where due, I have met a lot of people here over the last 20 years. The
bulk of which I keep in contact with via text or email now. I don't tweet, face book or any of the social media.
Time moves on and so should we. Steve (CTR)

PS I recently found out Barry Williams a old time D/S racer and life time mini guy passed away Christmas eve.
I'll see you at the big mini meet in the sky Berry and say Hi to Zip and NJ for me.

 Posted: Jan 6, 2020 02:27PM
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You still think you know things that just are not so. Call Don and ask him, he will tell you only one person
has ever been banned. Come back and tell us what you found out. Steve (CTR)
I myself have banned more than that. Keeping an eye on members, new and old - Seams like you guys desire more strict moderation. No one wants to be heavy handed. Everyone just play nice and have a good time.

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We have 3 (ahem) Minis/MINIs.....but I do not confuse the 2 gens at all.

The 1987 RHD Austin Mini from Wales is a true "Classic" Mini.

The 2009 and the 2012 while 'representative' of a MINI are just Baby Beemers.  There's lots of stuff I can't do with/to them because of proprietary software.  It's very frustrating.  I could literally type pages about this one annoyance. (but I won't bore you all, because I suspect 90% of the folks reading these words are classic owners with no modern binis in their stables and could care less-LOL

Long live the (Classic) Mini !

  ~ 30 minutes in a Mini is more therapeutic than 3 sessions @ the shrink. ~

  Mike  Cool  NB, Canada   

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