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 Posted: Jan 13, 2021 02:39PM
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John, I was referring to Veggivet's Moment build. That company starts from 50K going to 150k. I like the idea immensely. The question will be how the EV mini price holds up in the secondary market

 Posted: Jan 13, 2021 01:33PM
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Originally Posted by 6464s
50 large plus seems an awful lot for a motor upgrade. 
Not sure where you are getting $50k from, unless your talking about that particular builder on there faq page stating that conversions start at $50k you supply the car. Generally labor is $10k-15k. Parts are parts. Regardless, with EV West charging $100k with a 4 to 5 year waiting list... Few builders I spoke to are building classic cars outright, buying, restoring, converting, $120k+ average selling point in the USA. It doesn't make sense to me, but that's where the market is right now. However, on the other side of things, people buying wrecked leafs, etc and re-using and re-engineering it to work with a classic car are doing it for a total of $10-12k on the lowside, with mixed results on the end product. So there are a lot of variables of what you want the finished product to be. It's not cheap by any means, but it is a interesting concept. 

 Posted: Jan 13, 2021 09:20AM
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50 large plus seems an awful lot for a motor upgrade. 

 Posted: Jan 10, 2021 05:08PM
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Quiet indeed! Looking forward to ditching my earplugs ??

 Posted: Jan 10, 2021 09:38AM
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I'm guessing with so few people actually using their minis as daily drivers, charging would not be a. major concern. It's gotta be a real quiet. Gone will be the 4 cylinder hiccups.

 Posted: Jan 8, 2021 09:39AM
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I'm not sure what your considering fast charge (Only Tesla Chargers), I still think the Level 2 chargers at 240V/6.6kw of AC power is fast enough charge, better then Level 1 for sure. This power output translates to 26 miles of range per hour. We are roughly talking from dead at 20% that it would take 3 to 4 hours to fully charge the Mini.  

 Posted: Jan 8, 2021 05:24AM
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Without fast charging is an achilles' heel. I remember owning a diesel; you had to know all the diesel filling stations. What about the other automotive companies selling EVs? Still an interesting build.

 Posted: Jan 4, 2021 10:43AM
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Will Tesla let you fast charge?
From my understanding... NO. Vin has to sync up with charger for it to work basically. People tried to do a work around, but Tesla owners also would heavily frown upon it, as well as Tesla itself. But any level 1 or better level 2 charger at numerous locations would do the job. I mapped them out a few weeks ago to just see where they are in my area. Walgreens, community college, various gas stations, supermarkets, etc. Didn't seem too cumbersome, and I know the network will grow as time moves on and there is more demand. Regardless it really depends on your use. Running to grocery store, work etc this would get most people back and forth. Extended road trips obviously would take some planning, but there is Apps for that, maps, etc.

 Posted: Jan 4, 2021 10:15AM
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Will Tesla let you fast charge?

 Posted: Jan 4, 2021 07:16AM
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Are you going to use an electric heater for defrost and heat?

You certainly can, we won't for the demo build. There are a bunch of different products available depending on what voltage your running. 

 Posted: Dec 31, 2020 02:16PM
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Are you going to use an electric heater for defrost and heat?

 Posted: Dec 29, 2020 10:08AM
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John, How much weight are you adding with the batteries?
Not sure why I'm not getting email notifications, but...

Stock Mini Weighed in at (with empty gas tank):
Front 1,000 (64%)
Rear 575 (36%)
Total 1,575

 

EV Mini Weight:
Front 925 (56%)
Rear 725 (44%)
Total 1,650

Each Tesla S Battery weighs ~55.8 lbs each, 27”x11.5”x3.5”T + Enclosure 

 Posted: Dec 29, 2020 09:40AM
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John, How much weight are you adding with the batteries?

 Posted: Dec 29, 2020 04:07AM
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Oh, and before anyone asks about a clutch, this is how we are doing it and benefitting from the mechanical advantage. I find still being able to interact with a classic car paired with a interesting sounding AC motor and being able to hit 140+ mph could be fun. 
What is your timeframe for accepting cars for conversion after your demo is done? Maryland is a lot closer for me than Austin, and it sounds like your components are very similar to my build list.
Can you send me an email at . Send me your contact info. Cheers.

 Posted: Dec 29, 2020 04:06AM
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Very interesting, please keep me posted.
Is it possible to get a Solidworks or STP file of the motor? 
I'm thinking of using a standard mini lump, just remove the motor & blank off the gearbox, connect the electric motor to the (lightened) flywheel.
Thanks, Martin.
Been done a few times with the mini gearbox, and obviously has it's own challenges. Not sure if possible to get motor in solidworks, believe I've seen some people render it. I have the Netgain motors pdf blueprints I've been working off of. 

 Posted: Dec 28, 2020 02:38PM
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Very interesting, please keep me posted.
Is it possible to get a Solidworks or STP file of the motor? 
I'm thinking of using a standard mini lump, just remove the motor & blank off the gearbox, connect the electric motor to the (lightened) flywheel.
Thanks, Martin.

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 Posted: Dec 28, 2020 09:49AM
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Congrats John for tackling a new project. Keep going.

 Posted: Dec 28, 2020 07:23AM
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Originally Posted by meetthespeakers
Oh, and before anyone asks about a clutch, this is how we are doing it and benefitting from the mechanical advantage. I find still being able to interact with a classic car paired with a interesting sounding AC motor and being able to hit 140+ mph could be fun. 
What is your timeframe for accepting cars for conversion after your demo is done? Maryland is a lot closer for me than Austin, and it sounds like your components are very similar to my build list.

 Posted: Dec 27, 2020 05:46PM
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Oh, and before anyone asks about a clutch, this is how we are doing it and benefitting from the mechanical advantage. I find still being able to interact with a classic car paired with a interesting sounding AC motor and being able to hit 140+ mph could be fun. 

 Posted: Dec 27, 2020 05:41PM
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Yes, I started a few months back designing, designing some more, then pulling the trigger to move forward once it met my criteria. 125+ mile range, 120hp/187 torque, very small weight penalty. We are building a full demo car now, just picked up the shell on Xmas Eve. It uses our subframe with D series transmission (3.25 final drive), lsd optional, standard suspension components, Netgain Hyper 9 Motor, adapter, lightened flywheel and clutch. Chose the 100v motor, paired with 5 Tesla S batteries ~24KW. Orion BMS, 6.6 KW Charger (charge time should be around 3 to 4 hours for full charge from 20ish %). Pretty excited about it, but none of its cheap, but neither is our performance D-series package either. Batteries will get cheaper/better as the years go on, but right now hard to beat the price/weight/density of the Tesla batteries. I post most of my updates on Facebook, just easier for me to add pictures as we go, and video, etc. Hoping to have it done by March, but that's a tight timeline, do-able, but tight.

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