Don't know if this is going to work but i forwarded this to a guy a few years ago to put up the website this is how it all started www.hybrid-mini.co.uk/suzuki/suzuki.htm cheers Minsuki

Attached is a picture of Chucks frame. Hope he doesn't mind, but I found that off of 16v from the guy that helped him put together the frame.

Minsuki, please send me some pictures if you could, that would be great! So you live on the Eastern shore? I def remember meeting you. Funny enough I will be moving to Arnold this Spring, god willing, if I can sell my house here. We would be building the frame kit out of Laurel, MD most likely.

Vintagevespa, unfortunetly while there has been probably 3-6 of these particular builds, no one has seemed to document them. I am in works of developing a bolt on frame kit so you can drop in a NA G10 or G10 turbo. There is no one currently making a frame conversion, so everyone that has done it has made a custom one.

Anyway, here is a picture of another 3 cyl swap with turbo.... something to think about, super clean, not to intrusive, looks almost at home in there.

im just curious of cost for this swap in comparison to others. are you stuck fabricating your own sub frame or someone out there that makes a legitimate one? any threads out there (here at MM or elsewhere) that has a build thread or something with lots of info to view for interested individuals?

Yes it's me MTS,i live over on Marylands eastern shore.As for the engine management i am still using the stock ecu and the complete wiring harness out of the Sprint,including all switches speedo assy, it all fits well because of the size of both cars.I may have some pics but i have never posted to the website so i may have email to you.there is a company called Simple Digital Systems that makes a stand alone setup for this engine when used in small aircraft it uses a crank trigger and individual coils map sensor as opposed to mass air flow meter. Kind of expensive but if you want more power then it's the way to go.

Cheers Minsuki.

There will always be interest in swaps for our wee beasties. Teh important thingis the cost.

The Neiman Marcus approach - price high sell to a few or the Walmart approach, price low and sell a lot. That is the bone of contention.

Curious, did you guys go with Megasquirt, or just retained the factory ecu? Any pictures Minsuki of your setup. I tried digging around here and 16v and came up with nothing. Would love to take a gander. Not sure if you are the same guy, but I could of sworn I meet you at the Miniswap meet at Larry house in Woodbridge last year, or year before. I can't imagine there would be to many other people running around with the Suzuki swap.

Hi Mehmeh,yes i sure was. The problem with the 3 cyl is the turbo sticks straight out because of the exhaust manifold if you were to redesign that part i think you could get it to fit a whole lot better.I actually modified the grille to cover the turbo and it worked quite well,i'll see if i have a pic of it for you. Cheers Minsuki.

FOR AXLES I USED THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION ONES WITH THE 5 SPEED INTERMEDIATE AXLE BECAUSE THEY ARE SHORTER. I THINK  ABOUT 1 1/2 INCHES ON EACH SIDE. IT BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE I DID IT SO MEASURE CAREFULLY.

I am just starting a G10 swap into my pickup.  Here are a few interesting points that have not been mentioned.  First, the 3 cylinder that came in the Chevy Sprint(85 to 88) in the US, had an electronic carb with an ECU. This is the all time, highest fuel economy engine, ever sold in the USA.  I used to get over 60 MPG in my 85 Sprint.  The Geo metro later version of the same engine block, had FI and a completely different head design. In my experience, these were not as fuel efficient, My 91 got a best of 48 MPG, but still great compared to most cars.  I am using the early motor for my swap, with the better fuel efficiency, in an attempt to get 75 MPG in my Mini truck.  With tuning, no smog restrictions, and a good header and exhaust system, it should make 55 to 60 HP; sufficient for towing a very light "Goose neck" style trailer with my Honda powered Mini on it. 

  I would like to add that the Sprint Diff ratio is too short for use with 10 wheels, (4.11) with the 5th gear ratio around .780.  The fix is to use a later G13 single cam 4 cylinder tranny, which bolts right up.  It has a 3.52 Diff gear, which works out much better with the small tires.  The tranny mounts on the G13 are also in a better location for the swap, in my opinion.   Not that it helps much, but interestingly, the Mini CVs and the Sprint CVs have the same spline on the outer ends. Theoretically, they wil fit right into a Mini CV joint, using the Mini bearing star on the Suzuki axle.  Of course the lengths will not be right.  I will probably just shorten the suzuki axles, by cutting and splicing, with a split sleeve welded back together over the splice, to add strength and contain any possible internal break.

  I believe this swap would be a great way to relieve the pain of the comming fuel prices, as well as adding the reliability ingredient lacking in the "A" series power train, not to mention having that 5th gear that I am always looking for, when I drive a Mini on the freeway.  Saving an extra 120 pounds won't hurt either.  

I too,  have considered making a kit out of it, as I think it would far out-sell our VTEC conversion, on it's practical merrits alone, but I am already burning my candle at both ends, so will have to let this one go to someone younger, with more steam left.  So, whoever it is, do a nice job, don't take short cuts, and you will sell plenty. the carbureted Sprints are getting hard to find, but there are still a gang of Geo donor cars around.

Minsuki, where you at MME08 in Maine with the clubby? i was there too with mine (orange with fake wood at the time). is the 3 cyl install less intrusive to the front panel of the car?

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I HAVE NOT DONE SINGLE CAM BUT SHOULD FIT EASYER BECAUSE THE INTAKE IS SMALLER, THE TWINCAM IS A TUNE PORT

TO FIT IN A ROUND NOISE I HAD TO MOVE THE STEERING RACK BACK AN 1 1/2 TO CLEAR THE DIFF AND CUT A HOLE IN THE FIREWALL FOR THE INTAKE.  THE GOOD NEWS IS THE TWINCAM COMES STOCK WITH A 105 HP PLUS WHAT THE HEADER AND FREE LOW EXHAST GIVE . THE GAS MILEAGE ON THE GREEN CAR IS 32MPG. I MOVE THE ALT DOWN TO THE FRONT BY THE OIL FILTER

That one is a carb model and was a rustbucket (I think I recognize the diamond plate on the subframe fabrication) - I have a FI Turbo 3 cyl in a customized 75 Mini - finally located a parts Turbo Sprint after 2 years of trying to try side by side to get the mini one running (actually haven't been trying too hard) Go to the 16vMini forum for better info. G10 1.0L FI has similar power as a regular 1275 but lighter, 5 spd & and fuel injected. Most peeps do the 1.3L DOHC, some do the turbo (all reports are great on that one) and a few are doing the NA 1.0L 3 cyl. I'm pretty much a cruiser so the regular ol' 3 cyl will be good. Some people have already done on this forum - just do a search. WierdEh & 911T have done the regular 3 cyls I believe. Have to tilt the engine forward a bit & move the alternator above the intake manifold. One guy on the 16v Forum even stuck his in a regular Mini subby ala BigChief in Trinidad

For me it was measuring the axle lenghts for both sides,then cutting the original Mini and Sprint axles using the Suzuki/Sprint inner half with the Mini outer half. Then the two were put together with an outer sleeve to join them together pinned and welded,this was done for me by a driveshaft builder. Every thing was checked for balance and straightness and so far no problems,you can have a machine shop spline the axles so the respective inner and outer cv joints fit without having to do what i did.

Cheers Minsuki. P.S go to Minimikes website and look at the ones i did for the Clubman Estate with the Suzuki G13b engine.

So...simpleton question

what is the easiest way to hook poer to wheels:

Classic MINI axles/pots etc. from orig car, Chevy axles?...or what...

There is a 1965 Mini with a Geo 3 cyl transplant for sale right now on Pittsburgh Craig's List

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Don

Hi everyone, as Cup Cake said it was done quite a few years ago and i believe that conversion was mine. I lived in Tampa a few years back and was a member of Flame,the original car i did had the Sprint Turbo 3 cyl engine in it.The car is currently parked in the garage with my Clubman Estate which has the G13b 4cyl engine in it.To be honest i much prefer the turbo 3 than the N/A 4 cyl guess i am addicted to the torque from the turbo 3cyl.I am actually considering selling the complete engine swap from the Clubman and installing another turbo 3 into it also.The 3 cyl turbo was rated from the factory at 70hp and 107 pound ft of torque,if i recall i checked to see what the weight of the 3 cyl engine and trans was and if memory serves it was around 150lbs minus starter,alternator,intake manifold.Boy was i shocked at the performance of that engine considering the weight difference between the 1275 that i originally had in the car,i even took the car to the strip in Bradenton Fl and could not get the car to hook up even with the tires running around 20psi smoked the tires in 1st then 2nd and a little in 3rd when it finally hooked up.Funny thing is on the trip from Florida to Maryland on the Interstate it turned 50.2 mpg at a steady 65mph, if i went up to 70mph i dropped to 44 mpg,top end speed, it would do 115mph before the fuel cut shut it down.I guess what i'm trying to say is that the swap is a blast and should be considered as an alternative to the Minis engine.

Cheers Minsuki.

Breadbox, I know you have dabbled in lots of various swaps. Have you ever done a G10 swap, or used a Chevy Sprint G10 turbo motor? Any pitfalls? Any benefits of the Suzuki Twincam over the G10 setup, other than more power, cooler hallowed cams, etc?

i have been putting suzuki twincam in minis for a couple of years and they are a great running engine with a decent 5 speed and is a very civilized driving car

they also are 100lbs lighter than the mini engine so they do not upset the basic handling of the car  the only draw back is the swift gt are getting hard to find

the one in the pic has been on the road for a couple of years with minor problems